Harmonic minor odd question

[twistedtom]

I am doing a non-diatonic progression in a song that goes from A Aeolian to A Harmonic minor.
The difference between Aeolian and the harmonic minor is the 7th is major. So going through the scales in modes for the Harmonic minor; the Ionian I becomes “Ionian #5”,then Dorian #4th; dropping the sharp one interval as we go up the modes. So now we get to Mix Lydian and the 1st note of the scale is sharp so what do we call it? Mixolydian #1 does not make sense. When we are in A Aeolian it is G Mix Lydian now in the harmonic minor scales Mixolydian starts on G#.

[wrathy]

So going through the scales in modes for the Harmonic minor; the Ionian I becomes “Ionian #5”,then Dorian #4th; dropping the sharp one interval as we go up the modes. So now we get to Mix Lydian and the 1st note of the scale is sharp so what do we call it? Mixolydian #1 does not make sense. When we are in A Aeolian it is G Mix Lydian now in the harmonic minor scales Mixolydian starts on G#.

I think you are starting from C rather than A?
Ionian usually refers to the first mode of the MAJOR MODES:
C Ion, D Dor, E Phryg (the modes of C Major).

If you start from C, using the notes from A Har min, you get:
C, D, E, F, G# A B C. This is a cool sound, but not really Ionian. Its ALMOST harmonic major (love that sound):
C,D,E,F,G,G#,B,C.

The modes of C har minor would look like this.

http://andrewrathbun.com/images/HARMONICMAJOR.jpeg

(Sorry I wrote this sheet out in C and did not want to re-write in A)
Some of the modes in Har Min can have different names that the ones on the sheet.
Is this what you are looking for, or remotely helpful?

Best.

[twistedtom]

Wel I just find it interesting that as we go around the modes from the Harmonic minor when we come to the Mixolydian the first note is the one that is sharped. The song is in A minor most of the time the in A Dorian and then A Harmonic minor. A Aeolian and C Ionian do have the same note in their scales. In A harmonic minor when we get to C Ionian the 5th is sharped so it becomes C Ionian with a sharp 5th. Having a major 3rd it is still a major key. It may be an odd question but what the hell do we call the Mixolydian from a harmonic minor? What is a good way to think of it? I just adjust my scale on the Mixolydian to fit so maybe it is just academic.

[wrathy]

The fifth mode of A harmonic minor is E
A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
E=5
E, F, G#, A, B, C, D, E
That's E7(b9. b13)

F=6
G#=7

The 7th mode of A Har minor is:
G#, A, B, C, D, E, F,

You are still looking at the modes from "C" rather than "A"

The mode on G# is interesting. It has no 7th, so its rather ambiguous. Some people call it "UltraLocrian." I like it as it provides this triadic sound:
A-/G#dim
If your are careful with the voicing, its a different sonority.

best.