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Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:24 am
by James Steele
This looks interesting for times when you want to make a mix using headphones:

http://www.112db.com/redline/monitor/

Sounds interesting anyway. I haven't tried it.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:28 am
by nick danger
It does look interesting-- especially for those who have to use headphones, and/or can't afford to drop $800 a pair (and way up) for a good pair of monitors, plus room treatments.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:33 am
by James Steele
Might be useful for people working on the road with laptops and you want to email MP3 rough mixes/demos to people.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:51 am
by wurliuchi
$69.00!!! Uh-uh!

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:29 am
by stephentayler
Well, a 60 day demo isn't bad!! I like mixing on headphones, so I shall give this a try, as I usually place the vocal a little high in the cans.

Thanks for the heads-up, James

Cheers

Stephen

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:36 am
by Eleventh Hour Sound
Speaking of headphones I've got to put in a plug (no pun intended) for the $99 Bose ear bud deals. After using Sony 7506's for years (I have the ringing ears to prove it) and then trying several in ear headphones, I'm amazed at the natural sound, transparency, comfort, and low end response of the Bose. Whether listening to an iPod or using DP on the road (or in the middle of the night at home) the Bose really give me something in the ballpark of what I like to hear. My concern was about the stereo image, so I'm curious to hear what this new plug in does.

The only wish I may have is for a little more "air" or high end response with 'em but I think what I'm hearing is pretty natural, and a little EQ may provide the extra air I like. You can get 'em at Fry's sometimes for $89 and they have a 30 day return policy. :-)

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:43 am
by stephentayler
My first impression is quite favourable..... the stereo image becomes narrower, but feels more natural than just being panned in.... I am most curious as to how playing around with the phantom centre and distance controls helps me with my balancing, I will have to try on a proper mixing job over the next few days.

I use headphones quite a lot when I am editing or organising tracks, and i do tend to get used to the balance. If I can find a good compromise using this technique along with my regular monitors it would be extremely useful.

Shall report back

Cheers

Stephen

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:15 am
by Eleventh Hour Sound
James Steele wrote:Might be useful for people working on the road with laptops and you want to email MP3 rough mixes/demos to people.
You Rocketh :)

Their Morgana Sampler sounds like it might be cool too. Certainly worth demo-ing.

Update: Before you insert the Redline monitor in your master channel for the first time TURN YOU VOLUME DOWN! It emits a very ungodly sound until you load the license file, which to me is so unnecessary.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:00 pm
by Shooshie
Bought it. I've been waiting for another good headphone monitor simulator to come out. There was one a while back that cost more, and it just happened at a time when I was squeezed for cash, so I put it off for a few months, then lost track of it entirely. This one is simpler to use, which I like, and seems to be very good. I can't wait to put it to the test. I have to use headphones sometimes for hours at a time. I hate it, because the sound changes so radically when I hear it on monitors again. With a little luck, this will bring my headphone monitoring and near-field monitoring closer to the same experience.

Thanks, James! I'm really glad to have this.

Shooshie

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:07 pm
by James Steele
Shooshie wrote:Bought it. I've been waiting for another good headphone monitor simulator to come out. There was one a while back that cost more, and it just happened at a time when I was squeezed for cash, so I put it off for a few months, then lost track of it entirely. This one is simpler to use, which I like, and seems to be very good. I can't wait to put it to the test. I have to use headphones sometimes for hours at a time. I hate it, because the sound changes so radically when I hear it on monitors again. With a little luck, this will bring my headphone monitoring and near-field monitoring closer to the same experience.

Thanks, James! I'm really glad to have this.

Shooshie
I still haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I'm interested in checking it out. I can't vouch for it one way or the other... I just saw it listed in the news items at kvraudio.com. I did download the demo and axious to find time to give it a whirl sometime tomorrow, but I value your opinion on these things, Shooshie, so I'm even more interested to check it out. I have some Beyerdynamic sealed headphones... can't remember the model right now, but they seem pretty hyped in the bass. :(

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:15 pm
by Timeline
Where's the license??? I downloaded it but I don;t find one.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:18 pm
by James Steele
Timeline wrote:Where's the license??? I downloaded it but I don;t find one.
The demo license is sent to you as an attachment via email when you fill out their form on their site for the download. I haven't installed it yet and am not by my computer, but they seem to have some sort of UAD-type thing where you load the authorization file to enable the plug for either the demo period or for good I assume.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:25 pm
by kwiz
RecordingArts wrote:Speaking of headphones I've got to put in a plug (no pun intended) for the $99 Bose ear bud deals. After using Sony 7506's for years (I have the ringing ears to prove it) and then trying several in ear headphones, I'm amazed at the natural sound, transparency, comfort, and low end response of the Bose. Whether listening to an iPod or using DP on the road (or in the middle of the night at home) the Bose really give me something in the ballpark of what I like to hear. My concern was about the stereo image, so I'm curious to hear what this new plug in does.

The only wish I may have is for a little more "air" or high end response with 'em but I think what I'm hearing is pretty natural, and a little EQ may provide the extra air I like. You can get 'em at Fry's sometimes for $89 and they have a 30 day return policy. :-)
+1 on the Bose in ears. They could use a bit more high end but like you stated, a little eq will do the trick.
I recently spent $650.00 on a pair of Sensaphonic in-ear monitors for my gig (and that was the artist price) and the low end on the Bose is just as good.
The Sensaphonics beat the Bose with overall clarity and efficiency but the Bose are a great bargain for the price.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:45 pm
by Timeline
James Steele wrote:
Timeline wrote:Where's the license??? I downloaded it but I don;t find one.
The demo license is sent to you as an attachment via email when you fill out their form on their site for the download. I haven't installed it yet and am not by my computer, but they seem to have some sort of UAD-type thing where you load the authorization file to enable the plug for either the demo period or for good I assume.
Got it thanks. Give it a go.

Re: Plug-In for Mixing in Headphones

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:58 pm
by Armageddon
RecordingArts wrote:Speaking of headphones I've got to put in a plug (no pun intended) for the $99 Bose ear bud deals. After using Sony 7506's for years (I have the ringing ears to prove it) and then trying several in ear headphones, I'm amazed at the natural sound, transparency, comfort, and low end response of the Bose. Whether listening to an iPod or using DP on the road (or in the middle of the night at home) the Bose really give me something in the ballpark of what I like to hear. My concern was about the stereo image, so I'm curious to hear what this new plug in does.

The only wish I may have is for a little more "air" or high end response with 'em but I think what I'm hearing is pretty natural, and a little EQ may provide the extra air I like. You can get 'em at Fry's sometimes for $89 and they have a 30 day return policy. :-)
They actually sell these, believe it or be damned, at Target. I saw them for sale there two days ago. Of course, my primary reaction was "What the hell are these things being sold at TARGET for?!?" Sadly, they're charging the same price as everyone else. You can find them in the electronics' department, in the same aisle stocking iPod/.mp3 player accessories. That being said, they might also be found at Wal-Mart and definitely at your local Best Buy (which now has a semi-impressive musicians'/recording department).

For $99, I picked up a set of Sennheiser 280 Pros, which replaced my $99 Atlas (Radio Shack's old in-house pro audio electronics' division) studio phones. They have a nice flat response, which is absolutely the first thing I look for -- even most mid-range studio monitors seem to bump up the bass, these days! -- and they can go quite loud if you need them to, plus, they're the best sealed-cup phones I've ever used, and the first I've ever used with absolutely zero bleed into a mic when recording vocals. I also use Tannoy Proto-J's for my nearfields, and unfortunately, they're incredibly hard to find anymore.