Do you leave your equipment always on??
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i shut down at night and if im gone for more than a few hours.
living in beautiful san diego i dont need air conditioning, but there are days when the inside of my room can creep up to 80 degrees.
id rather not expose my gear to that kind of heat for extended periods of time. especially my liquid cooled powerpc fx 970, or as i call it, The Infernorater.
living in beautiful san diego i dont need air conditioning, but there are days when the inside of my room can creep up to 80 degrees.
id rather not expose my gear to that kind of heat for extended periods of time. especially my liquid cooled powerpc fx 970, or as i call it, The Infernorater.
why would i want to skin a cat?
- twistedtom
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Yes the power surge and the heating and expanding of components can bring on failure. Some gear has a ease on where it slowly adds the power reducing the shock wave.
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- Shooshie
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I've left my equipment on for 23 years, or at least since "Sleep" was invented. I turn it off for thunderstorms, and unplug it from AC and network. Lightning surges have blown my components on two occasions, and both times they were unplugged from the AC. It was the network that picked up the field from the lightning, and blew the networking cards, as well as all boxes on the network -- router, switches, and bridges. Fortunately, it didn't blow my printer, but it did blow a lot of stuff in a classic tangerine iMac. Oh well...
By the way, the temp in our house is regularly in the 80's for summertime. Can't help it. I run DP with fans on me and the equipment, but it's 85 degree fahrenheit air that is "cooling" us. That's with air conditioners running full blast. The temp outside is often 105, with 60% humidity!!!
Shooshie
By the way, the temp in our house is regularly in the 80's for summertime. Can't help it. I run DP with fans on me and the equipment, but it's 85 degree fahrenheit air that is "cooling" us. That's with air conditioners running full blast. The temp outside is often 105, with 60% humidity!!!
Shooshie
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- sschweyen
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I hear you on that! I used to keep my computers running constantly, but then got tired of paying the high electric bill. As the computers were running constantly ($$), the AC was kicking in more ($$)...making the bill higher, now I only power up on when I need them. keeps the room cooler and lessens the electric bill. If i don't need the horse power, ill just use my i book. I live in Vegas and it can get hot in the summertime (but we normally don't have high humidity---thank god)Shooshie wrote:The temp outside is often 105, with 60% humidity!!!
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Hmmm. Very strange I thought I responded to this the other day, but now my post is gone. Unless it was another thread.FMiguelez wrote:So unless there's an extremely GOOD reason to leave everything on (and, according to your views there isn't anything), I'll keep shutting down.
Thank you all
Anyway, there is one reason for leaving Macs running and that is the scheduled maintenance routines. It is my understanding that they are run in the wee hours of the morning. They can be run manually, however, from terminal with the following:
sudo periodic daily weekly monthly
It will ask you for your password and then chug away for a few minutes to do its thing. Don't quit terminal until it is done (indicated by the return of the $ prompt).
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No Phil, I noticed similar behavior in another thread and since it was nothing about politics, religion or anyone's ancestry, I doubt James deleted anything.Phil O wrote:Hmmm. Very strange I thought I responded to this the other day, but now my post is gone. Unless it was another thread.
Phil
Something is deleting messages across the forum. Weird computer stuff!
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- twistedtom
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You can use Macjanitor or Maccaroni to do the maintence, they are free as a down load.
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- monkey man
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Re: Do you leave your equipment always on??
I use Cocktail to shut the 'puter down every night, and tweak its options so that on Fridays it runs the weekly scripts, and once a month, well.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:...But I DO leave it on overnight every once in a while so it can go thru it's UNIX routines - or whatever it does at 4AM. Of course, I can also run those with ONYX if need be.
FWIW, I've often looked at the clock when I've heard the OS running the scripts (they're called cron scripts, I think); you can easily tell it's happening as the OS drive will suddenly get busy.
I believe they're run at 3:15 AM.
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Re: Do you leave your equipment always on??
Thanks, banana breath.Good idea. But wouldn't that mean they are running at like 2PM my time??? Duh...!monkey man wrote:I believe they're run at 3:15 AM.
- monkey man
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Re: Do you leave your equipment always on??
Only during prime-numberd months of leap years.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Thanks, banana breath. Good idea. But wouldn't that mean they are running at like 2PM my time??? Duh...!monkey man wrote:I believe they're run at 3:15 AM.
Crikey, don't you gorillas attend school?
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- twistedtom
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What time would they run if we were going 3/4 the speed of light?
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- monkey man
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Well, seeing as this ape did attend the school of obscure facts:twistedtom wrote:What time would they run if we were going 3/4 the speed of light?
It would depend upon the current speed of light (it's slowing down gradually), and more specifically on the speed of the light you might be referring to.
It's been slowed to a grinding halt and also to very slow speeds in the lab many times.
I also submit that it smoked the current standard speed in the not-so-distant past.
The universe, therefore, may not be as old as it appears to be, given that the linear-time methodology is all-pervasive nowadays.
Actually, the linear-everything model would be an apt description of where we're at.
Nature ain't, nor has it ever been, constant.
Interestingly, although said speed has been shown to be reducing, since the '50s it appears to have remained constant.
This is simply because we've been using atomic clocks to make the measurements since that time!
Think "wavelength of cesium 133 atom" (I think), which is essentially... a measurement of light.
Light to measure light. Brilliant. You've got a rubber ruler there, you silly, silly scientists.
And folks wonder why I've lost faith in "modern" science.
EDIT: This bit's a joke, the above comments aren't.
After consulting my ape-acus, I calculate the answer to your question to be:
03:15 x 0.75, which equals 195 minutes x 0.75 which equals 146.25 minutes after midnight.
02:26:15 AM, methinks, subject to changes in the speed of light.
Sorry. Back to our regular wednesday schedule.
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Dude, that's f'd up! Time to switch to decaf.
Phil
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