Can I fix an out of tempo guitar track?

towfur · Post by **towfur** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:53 pm

Hello Everyone this my first post( and probably not the last).My question or situation is this, My guitartist and I recorded a scratch guitar track for one song, without a click track. I am now trying to record the drum tracks using only the scratch guitar track. Its close on the timing between the guitar and drums but still noticeably off. Can I some how align the notes of the guitar track to the, lets say 120bpm click track? I know re-recording the guitar to a click track is one solution. I just wanted to ask if anyone has solved this problem through the DP software. I admit to being a newbie to DP , so I am not completely familar with DP's potential.
Any tips, help? Thanks in advance Chris

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:58 am

Depends where its out of time - if its in strict rythym chops you can move those in line with the beats by separating the soundbite bits and moving them in line with the drum beat. I wouldn't do it by beat detection either - use your ears and do it manually.However if its arpeggios and moving chord runs that are out this is much more difficult as its a feel thing and would involve much more editing. Much easier to record it again unless its a once in a lifetime performance.

donreynolds · Post by **donreynolds** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:02 am

The Melodune program dpes this very easily. It allows a user to quantize or manually time shift notes as a group or individually. Go to http://www.celemony.com and check out their demo

donreynolds · Post by **donreynolds** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:03 am

misspelled!! It's early. It is Melodyne

wheever · Post by **wheever** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:38 am

donreynolds wrote:The Melodune program dpes this very easily...

Ahhh, I liked Melodune better. Evokes long hot days at the beach. Endless summers. I think we all need a little Melodune in our lives.

Sorry. couldn't resist.

donreynolds · Post by **donreynolds** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:03 am

Melodune it is!!

rcannonp · Post by **rcannonp** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:54 am

wheever wrote:
donreynolds wrote:The Melodune program dpes this very easily...
Ahhh, I liked Melodune better. Evokes long hot days at the beach. Endless summers. I think we all need a little Melodune in our lives.

Sorry. couldn't resist.

It made me think of Kyle McLachlan and large worms.

towfur · Post by **towfur** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:14 pm

Thanks everyone for the advice I'll checkout Melodune. I think it will be easier to just record the track again.... with a click track! Towfur

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:38 pm

I suggest re-recording to a rythm track similar to your planned final. Makes it much easier for the guitarist to play with the right feel. And you are correct: it is far less work (and ultimately much better sounding) to simply have the guitarist play it again!

gridgital · Post by **gridgital** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:30 pm

use beat detection an awesome feature. Ive been experimenting with this feature and getting great results with just DP. you can copy the tempo map of a audio rhythm track to the conducter track and your MIDI track should follow write along. you can also align audio tracks with the grid in the waveform editor and even mute the transients detected which may interfere with the alignment.
anyways it's in the manual, but you have to work with it and reread to understand. so i wouldn't buy melodied until you try this.

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:23 am

I'm not being a luddite but beat detection in this particular example is a sledgehammer to crack a nut (cliche corner!). Sometimes its easier to use your ears and move things manually - or play better in time!