Don't you guys sleep?

[monkey man]

Thanks, fellas.

Good health to you both!

[toodamnhip]

I only sleep in the MachFive forum....

That's funny dude..made me laugh

[monetmusic]

Hey Monkey man, while you are on the topic of ingesting toxins, how much do you know about fluoride? I'm told it is a really bad thing. Not sure what to believe, but I have a good idea.

[monkey man]

G'day, monetmusic!

Firstly, welcome to our little home.
I trust you'll find your stay pleasant.

Warning: Another hippie discourse to follow; run and hide.

The thing about all "man-made" supplements is your body's only able to use a fraction of what you ingest.
The rest is regarded as poison (actually, I believe the body sees it all that way, but attempts to make do), and is expelled as acids bound with minerals from your alkali reserve (stored principally in your bones, teeth and organs).
In some cases the artificial product, including animal-derived ones, can wreak havoc in the body.

Retinyl from animal livers as a vitamin A supplement is a good example.
Even though it's a "natural" product, the body must jump through conversion-hoops to make do, and the usual acid-expulsion principals apply.
Beta-carotene, however, is fine. You can eat it 'till the cows come home, even to the point of having orange skin (think carrots, peaches etc).
The other form, however, will cause birth defects and God knows what else when more than 4500 iu are consumed in a day.
Don't believe the hype and warnings about Selenium and the rest; it's the same deal.
Plant form: Go for your life.
Animal form and laboratory-synthesised: Better not overdo it.

In the case of an animal product, this is because the animal itself had to make the stuff, and it belongs in its body, not yours (think medical rejections).
Furthermore, it's usually the case that these "foreign" bodies must be broken down and rebuilt as your own.
Protein is also a good example; it's like trying to build a house with a house.
Not ideal. Bricks and mortar will do fine; walls ripped from another house simply won't.
In this case the body must break the protein down into amino acids (bricks), then rebuild your types of protein.
Of course, animal proteins contain different ratios of aminos from yours, and toxins to boot.
The term "plant protein" is a lie as far as I'm concerned; the (plant) aminos will be constructed into proteins by your body, as stated.
Remember how cows make beef?
They don't eat humans (or monkeys, thank God), it's only the aminos in the grass, at least until they're fed pellets containing offal, beef bits etc, by humans!
Then the poor buggers are in the same position as Joe Bloggs with his Big Mac.

I seem to remember that many leafy green vegies are rich in flourine.
Here's the usual hype, along with the distinct lack of awareness about organic (plant-derived) vs inorganic (rocks, laboratory synthesis):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine

The natural, "living" colloidal minerals in all plants are 100% absorbed, assuming they're needed, which they tend to be!
They're even attracted to you by charge.
Minerals in the ground are poisonous, but as I've said, small amounts of them will be dealt with in your chemical lab.
This is why man believes they're "good".
Plants convert all inorganic (rocks, dead) minerals to the aforementioned living colloidals.
Even the most toxic of these is converted in plants, in their natural low ratios, and used by us.

Dis course is over.

Hope it helped.
Nicky

[jgest]

Hey Monkey man, while you are on the topic of ingesting toxins, how much do you know about fluoride? I'm told it is a really bad thing. Not sure what to believe, but I have a good idea.

If you want some great "peer reviewed" information about fluoride (aside from the monk who is quite a resource of knowledge and wisdom him self........ )

there are two great books from the same author (who happens to be a board certified neurosurgen for over 20 years)
EXITOTOXINS : the tase that kills
HEALTH and Nutrition Secrets ......that can save your life.
By RUSSEL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D

I HIGHLY suggest you read and discover the truth about most of the crap and poisons we were led to believe are good for us.

[monetmusic]

Hi guys, and thanks for the response.
When I wrote that (I heard fluoride was bad) I really meant that I had been reading about it. I guess my real question is (or should have been) do you feel that water fluoridation is as bad a thing as it is made out to be by some.
The subject really struck me when I stumbled upon it doing research on another project. I mean if we drink water with poison in it and use other products which contain the same poison, how DUMB are we not to look into it.

[jgest]

Hi guys, and thanks for the response.
When I wrote that (I heard fluoride was bad) I really meant that I had been reading about it. I guess my real question is (or should have been) do you feel that water fluoridation is as bad a thing as it is made out to be by some.
The subject really struck me when I stumbled upon it doing research on another project. I mean if we drink water with poison in it and use other products which contain the same poison, how DUMB are we not to look into it.

The books I mentioned go into that in great detail.

[kelldammit]

i suppose this is the wrong time/place to state that i'm a hardcore vegetable rights activist, no?

[monkey man]

Hi guys, and thanks for the response.

Cool. Hope it helped, monkey, er, monetmusic.
FWIW, I was attempting to teach you to fish.
Once certain basic principles are understood, one shouldn't require confirmation from books.
After all, you have yourself as a guinea pig as well.
I'd rather be a monkey myself, but the "guinea pig" thing seems to work.

i suppose this is the wrong time/place to state that i'm a hardcore vegetable rights activist, no?

That depends - d'ya reckon bananas have any?
I don't have any (bananas, that is), but I've got animal rights.

They're so cool, I can burp, fart, crap and piss wherever I want.
Oh, and I'm allowed to fling poo too, even my own!

[jgest]

i suppose this is the wrong time/place to state that i'm a hardcore vegetable rights activist, no?

They do have the right to get stewed!

[monkey man]

i suppose this is the wrong time/place to state that i'm a hardcore vegetable rights activist, no?

They do have the right to get stewed!

Ha! And spewed.

FWIMBW, in Monkeyville bananas are vegies now.
They wanted in on vegie rights, and bribed the Kooryup(t) court with guess what?
Yup, the ol' golden currency.

Can't blame 'em, really; they endured much abuse, as you might imagine.
Then again, it's probably best not to.

[jgest]

i suppose this is the wrong time/place to state that i'm a hardcore vegetable rights activist, no?

They do have the right to get stewed!

Ha! And spewed.

FWIMBW, in Monkeyville bananas are vegies now.
They wanted in on vegie rights, and bribed the Kooryup(t) court with guess what?
Yup, the ol' golden currency.

Can't blame 'em, really; they endured much abuse, as you might imagine.
Then again, it's probably best not to.

dude your curry is a spice short. Whats missing? tumeric, correandor, ginger, cumin, cinnamon?
It's sinful to screw with the balance of a good curry!

[monkey man]

Good call. Curry is sacred.

Stewed bananas, though?
Ouch; even a monkey wouldn't touch that.

One does see banana and/or coconut employed for their sweetness.
Funny, I always thought they were for heat-relief.

Catcha 'ron, JG.

[jgest]

Good call. Curry is sacred.

Stewed bananas, though?
Ouch; even a monkey wouldn't touch that.

One does see banana and/or coconut employed for their sweetness.
Funny, I always thought they were for heat-relief.

Catcha 'ron, JG.

Actually, curried bananas with coconut slivers are delicious! And good for you too. We are silly with curry in my house, I roll around in the sh*t. 420 when others light up, I reach for a curry!

[twistedtom]

We have a collection of currys in our home, don't even know how many, Just got a new one to try in a stir fry.