3 sentence ebay rant

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:57 am

"The only marks of wear are small scratches on the rack-mounting hardware where the screw was."

You mean to tell me that you could not afford 4 whole cents for nylon washers after you paid 1200.00 for your rack mount unit????????????????

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Yes I admit it, I am a bit obsessive -- but I was trained by engineers who a) lay the rack flat on its back before mounting gear b) always used nylon washers

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Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:26 am

You use scratchy nylon washers?!

It''s funny how some people care, some don't ..... personally I have some equipment I would, and probably have at some point used as a breadboard, other stuff has its own blanket. It makes no sense.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:13 am

You're making sense, Spike.

Resonant Alien · Post by **Resonant Alien** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:13 pm

Just be happy the guy put that in the description of the item instead of trying to hide it like a lot of people do on eBay

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:07 am

Resonant Alien wrote:Just be happy the guy put that in the description of the item instead of trying to hide it like a lot of people do on eBay

You've got a point -- most would just call it "MINT!!! PERFECT CONDITION" and be done with it.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:33 am

emulatorloo wrote:"The only marks of wear are small scratches on the rack-mounting hardware where the screw was."

You mean to tell me that you could not afford 4 whole cents for nylon washers after you paid 1200.00 for your rack mount unit????????????????

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Yes I admit it, I am a bit obsessive -- but I was trained by engineers who a) lay the rack flat on its back before mounting gear b) always used nylon washers

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Suddenly I'm feeling that my normal level of obsessive/compulsive tendencies is inadequate. Now, I've got to get nylon washers for all the screws in my rack. On the other hand, how many of you have adjustable spacers that support every unit front and back while adding .25" breathing space between units? I designed my rack that way. But I just didn't think of nylon spacers! How stupid of me! How could I have allowed those screws to scratch my precious rack units???

Shooshie

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:28 pm

Shooshie wrote:Suddenly I'm feeling that my normal level of obsessive/compulsive tendencies is inadequate. Now, I've got to get nylon washers for all the screws in my rack. On the other hand, how many of you have adjustable spacers that support every unit front and back while adding .25" breathing space between units? I designed my rack that way.

I've seen pictures of your set-up -- yes you must get washers to complete it. I usually get the black screws and washers in a set, like this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=804687

Although certainly the white nylon ones from the hardware store will do.

Hey I like that .25 inch idea!

Shooshie, the most obsessive person I know about cut pieces of felt to put on top of each piece of rack gear to protect from the other pieces before he racked it. So you would get:

Piece of Felt
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Korg Triton Rack
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Piece of Felt
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Yamaha A-5000
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Piece of Felt

And so on.

He claimed this avoided rack rash on the top. I never asked him what he did about gear that was vented on the top, though.

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Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:13 pm

For gear in rack cases which will be moved about a lot (used for live etc) if the rack case is just a small plastic one with no spring mounting inside I wrap two strips of neoprene around them (approx 2inch wide, 1/2 inch thick). Lots of gaffa tape to join ends of the loops - it will stay on fine if there's a hint of a stretch... or maybe add a strip of tape accross from one neoprene strip to the other like an 'H'.

Using strips is easier than trying to make 'feet' and will protect whether placed on side or bottom. Can also be easily removed if needed without leaving marks on the rack case!

Just adds some protection against vans with bad suspension, being plonked down on the ground by heavy handed roadie etc etc.

Just thought I'd throw that out there!

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:26 pm

I unmount all my gear weekly, and give the metal cases a coating of Turtle Wax, followed by a good buffing, a massage, and a martini. The power cord gets a coating of WD40 and irradiation treatments to ward off bad electrons. And I would install the gear in the rack with nothing less than velvet coated rubberized nylon washers.

mikebeckmotu · Post by **mikebeckmotu** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:56 pm

Jim, Jim, Jim....
Velvet?
Everybody knows that suede provides a warmer analog sound.
Really, now...

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:59 pm

Jim wrote:irradiation treatments to ward off bad electrons

I find it simpler to house them in my crystal pyramid for 48 hours. Then all bad electrons and spirits are automatically removed.

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HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:23 pm

What about grounding? With all respect to those who are concerned the virginal quality inherent in new gear is lost when the equipment is subjected to metal-on-metal mounting, isn't low-noise performance the most important criteria? Sometimes insulating washers are a good thing. Sometimes they're not.

A little paint, or even an indelible magic marker, has amazing restorative powers. Almost as good as a crystal pyramid.

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:32 pm

HCMarkus wrote:<snip>virginal quality <snip> indelible magic <snip> Almost as good as a crystal pyramid.

Crap, HCMarkus, I feel a song lyric coming on. . .

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HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:07 pm

emulatorloo wrote:
HCMarkus wrote:<snip>virginal quality <snip> indelible magic <snip> Almost as good as a crystal pyramid.
Crap, HCMarkus, I feel a song lyric coming on. . .

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Sounding good! Happy New Year!

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:28 am

emulatorloo wrote:... He claimed this avoided rack rash on the top...

I met a girl with that once.

emulatorloo wrote:... I never asked him what he did about gear that was vented on the top, though.

Hang on; the vent's always down below, isn't it?

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