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Post by wonder »

Thanks for the info.
I've tried to read up on this stuff ... but being my own help, its hard to know EVERYTHING.

I'll check out your lawyer ... THANKS.

Ps, do you guys W2 your musicians? I hire a LOT of guys ALOT and prob should start doing that!
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Post by MT »

MIDI Life Crisis wrote:He should retain ALL the publishing rights...
Sorry for the delayed response. Yes, with this particular artist (after reading the other pages of posts), he may be able to retain all publishing, due to her being a great but NEW name. I guess I should have prefaced my post with "I had some label mates who had a multiplatinum pop album, then wrote some songs that they sold to a country artist who wouldn't record them without 25% of the publishing... which they thought was a fair deal, since it was the artist who would make them sell in the first place..."

It's very common, and happens all the time.

If it's the next Sheryl Crow, most likely he will be asked for a piece of the publishing at some point, most likely by the/a record company or lawyer.

If I own the mineral rights to some land, but don't have the capital to drill, and I'm suddenly approached by Exxon, who wants to drill on my land, you better believe they're going to ask for a piece of the revenue.

Anyway, wonder, still - congrats for the situation! Makes it much easier to get a publishing deal with the labels, which is where all the money is anyway (and yes, you'll have to give up a share too when you write Josh Stone's next big hit).

Best of luck to you -

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Good points bro.

I know I'm gonna need a lawyer for all this stuff.

I just want to do whats fair ... for both parties (since she is a friend). And, I was wondering what is a fair/good amount to sell the tracks for. I guess it also depends on how much i think my time is worth? (for the production and things.)

is there anyone in my spot who's made a demo, sold the demo as is cause they liked it so much? if so ... roughly how much did you sell the track for?
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Don't click that link fellas, just to be safe.
It's suddenly been appearing all over the forum.

Click at own risk, I reckon.

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Post by David Polich »

The 10g's - go for it.

Don't give away your writer's royalties, that's the only thing that WILL make you money IF the CD sells big.

Maybe I just missed it in someone's post, but your situation is referred to as a "buyout". As long as the terms of the buyout don't reassign the writer's royalties to anyone else, then it's a good deal.

Let's say for some reason the Cd really starts to happen and sells gazillions. You might think, hey, they got my 3 songs for 10g's and they're raking in millions, that sucks. But really, as long as you have your share of writer's royalties intact, you'll still make money from the tune. Even if they have someone else produce it again later (which can sometimes be the case).
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