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Aaron Guidry
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Cursor Hand Goes Missing

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Has anyone had this issue:

The cursor hand that pops up when dragging MIDI notes or dragging WAVs longer or shorter randomly goes missing. I can still see the arrow and the plus, but the little hand that should pop up when making MIDI or WAVs longer or shorter just goes away. I've tried toggling the Pointer Tool, the I-Beam Tool, and the Pencil Tool, but nothing seems to get the little hand back once it's gone other than quitting DP and restarting, and even that sometimes doesn't do the trick. Anyone experience this, and if so, how did you fix it?
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I had that happen yesterday. Rebooting my Mac made it come back.
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Aaron Guidry wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:30 am Has anyone had this issue:

The cursor hand that pops up when dragging MIDI notes or dragging WAVs longer or shorter randomly goes missing. I can still see the arrow and the plus, but the little hand that should pop up when making MIDI or WAVs longer or shorter just goes away. I've tried toggling the Pointer Tool, the I-Beam Tool, and the Pencil Tool, but nothing seems to get the little hand back once it's gone other than quitting DP and restarting, and even that sometimes doesn't do the trick. Anyone experience this, and if so, how did you fix it?
This sounds similar to my situation. All tools stop appearing after a few minutes of working in DP. The tool behavior is there, but I only see a generic pointer. Restarting brings them back usually, but it happens so often I don’t even bother at this point. I’ve actually learned to work without seeing pallet tools or smart tools.

Needless to say, this is a major PIA and really slows me down. I’ve tried everything I can think of to fix it. Tech-support is stumped, as are many of the wise people on this forum. Your issue sounds very similar. Please let me know if you find a solution. I’d love to be able to see the tools again :(
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I get the occasional stuck tool, but a little moving around seems to quickly restore normal performance.

So strange how different, yet similar, systems demonstrate such disparate flaws.
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I've been experiencing some cursor weirdness, since going to v11.3, as well.

Specifically, the cursor stops changing to the little bracket icons when trimming audio in the Sequence Editor. Sometimes, clicking off of DP (like on the Finder desktop) and then coming back to DP fixes it.
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Clicking off DP into the Finder or another app has no effect on my issue. The tools will come back randomly sometimes, but I can't figure out why.

I did notice yesterday that I can always invoke the Cursor tool, even when no other tools are showing up. The little arrows you get when resizing windows also are immune to the problem. ...maybe because the pointer, the cursor and the resizing arrows' icons are part of the MacOS system, and not installed by DP, they are unaffected? The little arrows for resizing tracks in the SE do disappear however - which is arguably the most disruptive aspect of this problem. not having those makes life very difficult :(
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Yet another AS problem? Not happening here.
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bayswater wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:31 pm Yet another AS problem? Not happening here.
I’m sure it’s not. Until the OP posted I thought I was the only one that had the problem. And I still may be the only user for whom it happens consistently.

Yes, I’m on an AS Mac, but since it’s such an isolated issue, categorizing it as an “AS problem” wouldn’t be accurate
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dix wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:16 pm
bayswater wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:31 pm Yet another AS problem? Not happening here.
I’m sure it’s not. Until the OP posted I thought I was the only one that had the problem. And I still may be the only user for whom it happens consistently.

Yes, I’m on an AS Mac, but since it’s such an isolated issue, categorizing it as an “AS problem” wouldn’t be accurate
Agreed. I've seen it exactly once. Because of my paralyzed left arm, making accidental key combinations is a normal part of my workflow. I have no idea if I caused that one incident or not.
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