11.3 crashing on Bounce to Disk - RESOLVED

[Jim]

So far, I've experienced crashing on several older projects I had made mostly mix level changes that presented no issues at playing in 11.3 or bouncing in 11.23 or previous versions.

I used the search and destroy method to track down the issue. Search and destroy is time-consuming as it involves disabling one VI or effect at a time, and then bouncing to see if the crashing is fixed or not. When there's no crash, the last item I disabled was the issue; so replacing it with a fresh instance stops the crashing for that particular project.

I have reverted to 11.23, and accomplished several more bounces without crashing.

Has anybody else experienced this? If it's systemic, MOTU needs to fix it.

[Jim]

I don't know what to make of the lack of "me too" posts on this subject, but I infer that the issue is probably related to an incompatible or buggy plug-in that plays fine, but triggers a crash when Bounce is invoked.

I tried reinstalling 11.3 again, and crash on Bounce recurred immediately on older projects (I'm remixing almost my entire back catalog using new plug-ins and EQ techniques.). So, back to 11.23 and no crashes on bounce, except for one that didn't crash until about 25% into the bounce, but no crash on the second attempt.

Since I've got about 50 third party plug-ins installed, it could take days to try to search and destroy the one or more that is causing my crashes. It's quite possible that one of my new plug-ins or an update to an older one is the culprit. Crashes can often be tracked down to one of the last items you've installed on your system.

BTW, 11.23 still crashes randomly, either while DP is playing or by double clicking an effect or context clicking an insert. The crash is hardly ever repeated after I relaunch and do the same clicking that caused the crash, making them random and not repeatable.

I'd like to know if that's been fixed in 11.3, but it seems like I'm better off dealing with random crashes than near certain ones.

[Jim]

I've reverted to 11.23 do most of my work, but I've been launching 11.3 occasionally to try to suss the issue, but I've also launched it unknowingly by double-clicking a project in the Finder. Then, I've gotten multiple crashes either by clicking in the GUI or during playback. It's completely unreliable on my two computers.

[bayswater]

Since I've got about 50 third party plug-ins installed, it could take days to try to search and destroy the one or more that is causing my crashes.

The crash log might help. A web search will show Apple support articles on where they are. They're not easy to read but sometimes contain the name of a possibly guilty plugin.

[Jim]

Doing a full disk search for "crashlog" is simple enough. Many are stored in the user > Library > Application Support folder for the apps in question. Not for DP.

I haven't seen the DP crash reporter screen in a long time. I don't think there's a setting to disable it. I have looked.

I agree about crashlogs often being inscrutable. I used to (try to) read them when I was using Adobe Premiere regularly. They didn't help me much. I learned on my own that the app just hated Long-GOP video. The bigger the project (more footage with various codecs), the more frequent the crashing.

Since DP 11.3 crashes on me with a new Project and only one VI instantiated, that points to an internal incompatibility or a bug. We've discussed enabling Failed plug-ins, which I stopped doing. I only let plug-ins load that the inspection process has marked as "Passed."

If I was dead in the water and had time to kill, I'd do a clean install of the app and all my plug-ins one at a time and try to make it crash. But, since 11.23 is serving me well, there's no impetus to track this down on my own. I don't see any must-have features in 11.3. Frankly, the best new features for me since version 8 or so is the ability to scale the whole interface on 4K displays and consolidated audio & MIDI tracks.

[stubbsonic]

I'm having crashes with DP 11.3 but not related to bouncing.

[Jim]

I'm having crashes with DP 11.3 but not related to bouncing.

Does anything in particular induce your crashes? Clicking something? Just playing back?

[stubbsonic]

Does anything in particular induce your crashes? Clicking something? Just playing back?

The crashes I had were cause by doing things in the QuickScribe window. Another user described editing chord symbols and had a big ole crash-- and, like me, trying to do one specific thing in QuickScribe would put an end to DP.

[Jim]

Crash on Bounce still manifesting in 11.31. Back to 11.23 for me.

[mikehalloran]

I don't know what to make of the lack of "me too" posts on this subject

That none of us are having this issue.

I see Antares in your list of plugs. How long since you updated the CodeMeter Run Time?

[Jim]

I disabled about 40 plug-ins I never use (including Antares) in the Prefs, and it's not crashing on Bounce now. Yay.

Thanks for the suggestions. I should have tried this sooner.

[labman]

Thank you for letting us know it was some plug Jim

[Jim]

Thank you for letting us know it was some plug Jim

I also pressed the Option button as I relaunched, so it's hard to say exactly what fixed it. I have a few bundles I used for video editing in Premiere that I disabled. I now use Resolve, and it has it's own suite of plug-ins in the Fairlight section. I also disabled all the Apple AU plugs I never use except for the pitch shifter I use occasionally on snare tracks. And I had a few Demo effects that can't be modified, making them less useful.

[labman]

I also pressed the Option button as I relaunched, so it's hard to say exactly what fixed it. I have a few bundles I used for video editing in Premiere that I disabled. I now use Resolve, and it has it's own suite of plug-ins in the Fairlight section. I also disabled all the Apple AU plugs I never use except for the pitch shifter I use occasionally on snare tracks. And I had a few Demo effects that can't be modified, making them less useful.

That is good info.

[evbvd]

I'm on DP 11.31 and just experienced the Crash on Bounce to Disk story. I turned off offline bounce, and it bounced just fine. thought I'd share this in case it's helpful for others...

Mac OS 12.7.2 (I know, I'll upgrade soon)