Sonoma compatibility

[James Steele]

I'm experiencing some weirdnesses with Kontakt, Komplete Kontrol 3, and the MPC 2.1.2.
The MPC is just spiking in VSTi2 in Sonoma, KK is hanging DP11.23 on occasion, plus it and Kontakt are the likeley culprits in some DP has crashed messages that happen without crashing DP???

I'm very suspicious of the new NI stuff. Especially Komplete Kontrol 3.0.0. It's getting roundly panned over at VI Control as bloated and slow. I installed Komplete Kontrol 3.0.0. and have been getting CPU spikes in some of my projects with instances of KK. The bad part is going backward is difficult. It was a week or so ago that it was released, and probably the only way I could get to normal is to go back to an APFS snapshot, but that's going to affect other things I installed.

I tried just restoring the old 2.9.4 Komplete Kontrol plug and app last night, but the way it scans installed plugs is affected as well, so it was not a success to do it that way. I'm going to have to just tough it out I guess and wait for 3.0.1 or whatever for NI to work the kinks out.

Also, Ozone 11 was spiking on me, too. Ugh. Might just be I had to many plugs on the master bus... the old single core bottleneck biting in me in the butt. That said, thinking of going back to Ozone 9 Elements during early stages of project because it has a much lighter CPU hit.

[cuttime]

I'm experiencing some weirdnesses with Kontakt, Komplete Kontrol 3, and the MPC 2.1.2.
The MPC is just spiking in VSTi2 in Sonoma, KK is hanging DP11.23 on occasion, plus it and Kontakt are the likeley culprits in some DP has crashed messages that happen without crashing DP???

Still on Ventura here. I've had this as well since Kontakt 7.6.0, and MOTU has pretty much confirmed this. There is now a 7.6.1, but reports at VICtl are that it is virtually unusable.

[Michael Canavan]

@cuttime and James, yeah NI have always been a mixed bag, I love the Kompltete Kontrol s88mkII here for the light guide, not so much for the preset browser. The fact that I get 592 matches for Synth Analog because NI think Analog and Short are the same type of attribute is beyond stupid, plus if you go to the software and command select both Analog and Short it adds more presets to the list instead of taking away all the ones that do not include both descriptors. This is counter to any other preset browser out there, including their own built in ones in their plugins.

Plus, I was all excited about Komplete Kontrol making browsing Reaktor patches easy, not really, in most cases you can't even browse an Ensembles built in patches when it's instantiated in KK. It's just frustrating watching a company spin it's wheels with great ideas poorly implemented.

Again, KK is well worth it for the light guide in Opus and Kontakt libraries, plus the DP control surface integration is absolutely fantastic! James if you haven't figured this out yet, DP is super smart with selections in DP with Multi Record on. I have three other controllers that I use all the time, an MPE Linnstrument, the Akai MPC Live II, and the Beatstep Pro. All three of them can be assigned to specific tracks since they're mostly specialty controllers, so up to two MPE synths can be assigned to the Linnstrument, and the MPC hardware controls it's own drum plugin etc. then the rest of the tracks can be assigned to the s88mkII and DP will ignore the tracks not assigned to the s88 allowing the mixer in the s88 to automatically switch arming the various tracks with the s88 assigned. So all the advantages of not being in multi record without the disadvantages of being only able to arm one track at a time.

[James Steele]

Yeah. I have an S61 Mk2, but I’m looking to buy a used S88 Mk2 just to be able to access all zones on some Kontakt instruments at once. Prices are falling through the floor because of the Mk3 announcement.

That said, very disappointed in Komplete Kontrol 3.0.0. I tried piecemeal reversion to 2.9.4 but it was a mess. I’d have to roll back to an APFS snapshot of my boot drive. Since I’m not operating a commercial studio, I’m going to just suffer through it until NI fixes these issues.

[James Steele]

Here's a link to the thread at VI Control in case anybody is looking for it:
https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... ot.144521/

I'm really regretting updating to Komplete Kontrol 3.0, but I'll have to now just ride it out.

[James Steele]

Here's a post with a link to the Komplete Kontrol 2.9.4 installers for Mac and Windows. Maybe I'll try running that and see. Ugh. Someone did mention that they restored a database file from a back up and that made reverting to 2.9.4 work.

https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-5420963

[Michael Canavan]

Here's a post with a link to the Komplete Kontrol 2.9.4 installers for Mac and Windows. Maybe I'll try running that and see. Ugh. Someone did mention that they restored a database file from a back up and that made reverting to 2.9.4 work.

https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-5420963

Could you post the direct link to the NI download? I'm currently banned from VI-Control! (Spitfire owner controversy, and I posted a link to the article about him stepping down, that was enough I guess)

[James Steele]

Here's a post with a link to the Komplete Kontrol 2.9.4 installers for Mac and Windows. Maybe I'll try running that and see. Ugh. Someone did mention that they restored a database file from a back up and that made reverting to 2.9.4 work.

https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-5420963

Could you post the direct link to the NI download? I'm currently banned from VI-Control! (Spitfire owner controversy, and I posted a link to the article about him stepping down, that was enough I guess)

Here’s the direct link to MacOS dmg:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pwnb9K ... drive_link

[BobK]

In an October blog post, Blue Cat Audio said they thought that Sonoma resolved some problems with audio in multi-core Apple Silicon macs.

In a November 6 update, they retracted that and said the issues remain:

https://www.bluecataudio.com/Blog/tip-o ... ore-magic/

Anybody here had audio performance issues in Sonoma with DP?

[James Steele]

Yeah. I posted a topic about that which nobody saw I guess.

https://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73599

Sonoma has been okay for me. I’m on 14.1.

[BobK]

Yeah. I posted a topic about that which nobody saw I guess.

https://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73599

Sonoma has been okay for me. I’m on 14.1.

Missed that. You are ON IT!

Glad to hear Sonoma is working well for you.

Don't know why, but this time I'm eager to update instead of staying at least one OS version behind, like I usually do.

[mikehalloran]

I see that macOS 14.1.1 dropped yesterday. More bug fixes.

Ventura is still 13.6..1

[James Steele]

I see that macOS 14.1.1 dropped yesterday. More bug fixes.

Ventura is still 13.6..1

Mmm. I need to do that. Although I get worried that if I upgrade to 14.1.1 I can’t use an APFS snapshot of my boot drive created under 14.1 to roll back?

[Phil O]

Wow. I'm seeing a significant reduction in boot time on my M1 Mac Mini after this update. About 15 seconds from power button to log-in screen now vs about 30-35 seconds before.
Might have something to do with Bluetooth. I say that because it had me do some stuff to re-establish connection to my wireless keyboard at the end of the install.

Your friendly neighborhood Phil

[mikehalloran]

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I get worried that if I upgrade to 14.1.1 I can’t use an APFS snapshot of my boot drive created under 14.1 to roll back?

Per my conversations with Apple, that is correct.

APFS Snapshots still works for the non-OS volume as I have found out.