Best CD making Program
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Best CD making Program
It's been a while since I mastered a music CD with crossfades between tracks, etc.
I used to use BIAS Peak for this but the computer Peak was installed on has bit the dust.
What program would you recommend nowadays to create decent music CDs?
Thanks, Fred
I used to use BIAS Peak for this but the computer Peak was installed on has bit the dust.
What program would you recommend nowadays to create decent music CDs?
Thanks, Fred
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Re: Best CD making Program
I presume you are talking about mastering to Orange Book standards.funkyfreddy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:24 am It's been a while since I mastered a music CD with crossfades between tracks, etc.
I used to use BIAS Peak for this but the computer Peak was installed on has bit the dust.
What program would you recommend nowadays to create decent music CDs?
Thanks, Fred
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There are a few programs out there still. I use DSP Quattro (Mac only)
https://www.dsp-quattro.com/dspquattro/Site/
Besides being the least expensive that I know, Stefano does or used to offer a discount for BIAS Peak owners (I took advantage of that a decade ago). Don’t know if still available but it never hurts to ask.
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It's been a while since I've used DSP Quattro to burn a proper CD for commercial release, but it has all the tools. I have the current version and it still has the full CD creation section.
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I think DSP-Q comes in different editions now that do different things.
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The do indeed!
It definitely bears some research because cursory examination of the website shows they now have three different products:
• The regular DSP Quattro we're used to up till now
• DSP-AudioEditor
•DSP-AudioCDBuilder
My guess is that DSP-Quattro is the full featured and probably more expensive app that covers all the bases and the other apps are less expensive apps with a subset of specialized features appropriate to a specific task. YMMV
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That is correct. DSP-Q includes the feature sets of both others. Here's the manualJames Steele wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:26 pm
My guess is that DSP-Quattro is the full featured and probably more expensive app that covers all the bases and the other apps are less expensive apps with a subset of specialized features appropriate to a specific task. YMMV
https://www.dsp-quattro.com/FreeDownloa ... Manual.pdf
It looks like Audio Editor is trying to take on TwistedWave at half the price (but without the latest AV functionality). Although I prefer the cleaner interface of TW, this will do just about everything one needs incl. time/pitch and batch file conversion, all except CD Mastering. Here's the User Manual.
https://www.dsp-quattro.com/FreeDownloa ... Manual.pdf
Audio CD Builder will allow you to build and burn Red Book compliant CDs (Orange Book is a superset that includes Red Book and Data CDs). Again, the User Manual.
https://www.dsp-quattro.com/FreeDownloa ... Manual.pdf
I've mastered enough CDs so that the idea of having an audio editor bundled is quite appealing to me—even though I prefer TW when I want a stand-alone editor or batch file converter.
Which brings up Roxio's Toast. Yes, it does Orange Book (Red Book + Data CDs) but there's no audio editor. Neither is there a graphic interface that gives you a decent overall picture of exactly what's going on when Mastering. I mastered one CD in Toast after BIAS Peak went south on me but before I discovered DSP-Q and swore never again. OTOH, it's great for AV and Video DVD mastering as well as Data CDs and duplication of any of these.
TwistedWave is the opposite—great for editing and prep but you can't burn CDs from the app.
I have current licenses for DSP-Q, TwistedWave and Toast.
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Rats! There's one thing it doesn't do that I would still need from time to time: saving audio in Ogg Vorbis format. Occasionally I hack together NKS support files for third-party VIs that don't come with it, and that seems to be the format the audio previews require. I'll be keeping Twisted Wave v.28 around for that as long as it will work. I'm probably going to pass on the subscription model the developer is introducing with version 29.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 5:43 pmIt looks like Audio Editor is trying to take on TwistedWave at half the price (but without the latest AV functionality). Although I prefer the cleaner interface of TW, this will do just about everything one needs incl. time/pitch and batch file conversion, all except CD Mastering.
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Stefano sometimes finds threads where DSP-Quattro is mentioned. Perhaps he'll find this one. You could also ask him to add it to the list.James Steele wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:26 pmRats! There's one thing it doesn't do that I would still need from time to time: saving audio in Ogg Vorbis format. Occasionally I hack together NKS support files for third-party VIs that don't come with it, and that seems to be the format the audio previews require. I'll be keeping Twisted Wave v.28 around for that as long as it will work. I'm probably going to pass on the subscription model the developer is introducing with version 29.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 5:43 pmIt looks like Audio Editor is trying to take on TwistedWave at half the price (but without the latest AV functionality). Although I prefer the cleaner interface of TW, this will do just about everything one needs incl. time/pitch and batch file conversion, all except CD Mastering.
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Great idea! He actually incorporated one small change at my suggestion, albeit truly trivial. When you checked for if there were updates from within DSP-Quattro, if there was no update, the dialog would say "This is the last version available." Well, tagged on to the end of a suggestion which I don't think he implemented, was a smaller suggestion that he should maybe change it to "This is the most recent version available." English isn't his first language, but his English is infinitely better than my Italian so I explained the subtle difference and it was in the next update. LOL. And yeah... it was silly. Ogg Vorbis is a much better request!mikehalloran wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:32 pmStefano sometimes finds threads where DSP-Quattro is mentioned. Perhaps he'll find this one. You could also ask him to add it to the list.
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After mixed results with Toast, I jumped with Hofa app : CD-Burn.DDP.Master
Very glad I did.
https://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/cd-burn-ddp-master
Very glad I did.
https://hofa-plugins.de/en/plugins/cd-burn-ddp-master
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HOFA.
Everything you need for Mastering, PQ etc., client delivery, and DDP for replication. I've used it for final layup and CD plant delivery for 2 CDs so far.. I used to use the old Sonic Studio, before it bit the dust. It's the best out there for what it does, IMO, and it's not expensive for the pro solution it is.
Everything you need for Mastering, PQ etc., client delivery, and DDP for replication. I've used it for final layup and CD plant delivery for 2 CDs so far.. I used to use the old Sonic Studio, before it bit the dust. It's the best out there for what it does, IMO, and it's not expensive for the pro solution it is.
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