Baffled by bounce to disk

[DAWdler]

Apologies if this is covered by another thread. I’ve read and reread the bounce section in the manual and my results are not what they are supposed to be. I could also be missing something entirely basic. I’ve been away from my studio for way too long. Too much work.

The issue is when I bounce to disk the project I’m working on, the output sounds significantly different then what I hear with playback inside DP. (DP 11.2). It appears my aux tracks are not being added to the bounce the way they sound on playback. I’m bouncing real-time so I can hear as it bounces. I have 5 vocal tracks all output to a stereo buss routed to an aux track that’s output to the main outs, 3 guitar tracks bussed the same way. I’m selecting the main outs for the bounce source.

Any clues?

[mikehalloran]

A picture is worth…

Please take a screen shot of your Bounce settings—not the whole screen, just the window. Shift Command 4. then draw a box.

You will need to convert the .png to .jpg in Preview so that in can attach.

[Tidwells@aol.com]

Hi, Dawdler!

When I do a non-realtime BTD I have to select (highlight) in the Tracks Overview Window every track I want to hear in the mix and also set the start and end points for the bounce in the selection fields in the Tracks Overview Window. I put a marker where the music actually starts and stops so it's easy to set these selection points every time I Bounce to Disk. This allows your bounce file to have no blank silence at the beginning or end if you set the points carefully. Even though I select the main outs as the bounce source, I STILL have to highlight every track I want to hear in the mix. It seems redundant since all those tracks are routed to the main outputs, but it is what it izzzzz........

Doug

[EMRR]

^ this, I think

[DAWdler]

Pics attached.

I am using "select all" ,Command A, in the tracks window to select my tracks. In the Bounce window my source is outputs, and I want the main outs. What I am getting is something other than what I hear when playing back the project in DP. I think it could be the way I setup my aux tracks, But I can't see where. I remember doing it this way in the past. Might be having a senior moment.

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[Tidwells@aol.com]

Hey, Dawdler: I see your BTD window and your mixer window, but maybe try going to your Tracks Overview window, select all the tracks and make sure the start and end selection times are what you want, then do the BTD operation without going to the mixer window. Perhaps this will work. If that doesn't work, you might try choosing the other option in the BTD window to set individual tracks as the source instead of one output. I'm guessing a little because I use an older version of DP without as many BTD options.....

Doug

[DAWdler]

I figured out my issue. BTD doesn’t include tracks with ‘input’ selected. While it works on playback, it’s not included in the bounce. I’ll need to change those to normal effects sends, or a submix.

[Tritonemusic]

I see your Master Fader is assigned to bus 27-28, instead of your Main Out. Could that have anything to do with it?

[DAWdler]

I tried bussing the master to a stereo track to record the output. I forgot that DP doesn’t work that way. That pic was while I had the master set to a bus.

[bayswater]

I figured out my issue. BTD doesn’t include tracks with ‘input’ selected. While it works on playback, it’s not included in the bounce. I’ll need to change those to normal effects sends, or a submix.

What do you mean by "input selected"? Do you mean Monitor?

[DAWdler]

What do you mean by "input selected"? Do you mean Monitor?

Correct, input monitor button on the channel strip.

[bayswater]

What do you mean by "input selected"? Do you mean Monitor?

Correct, input monitor button on the channel strip.

I tried BTD with the Input Monitor on and off and it didn’t make any difference. Curious. Maybe some sort of CoreAudio thing that differs across OS versions.

[Tidwells@aol.com]

Interesting, Dawdler! I've never run into that issue while doing an offline non-realtime BTD. It makes sense that no input monitoring signals would get included in the bounce if it's not in real time. So it's possible that another way to solve your problem is to switch to non-realtime bounce. It's faster anyway, but of course you'll have to listen to the result afterward to make sure there are no glitches, etc. That's the amazing thing about DP: It's so vast, with so many features, that there are often several ways to accomplish the same task or solve a problem, and if you find a bug in the software, there's usually a way to cope and keeping going. All hail the MOTU engineers!!

Doug