DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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Hi Yawl,
I have found DP on my windows laptop to be quite usable with 11.1. It would seem that MOTU responded to feedback wit bug fixes. My waves and psp plugins are for the most part well behaved and I'm getting stuff done. However offline bounces are half normal (offline on mac) speed or really slow if plug in windows are open while bouncing. Has any else noticed this?
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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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pencilina wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:29 am Hi Yawl,
… However offline bounces are half normal (offline on mac) speed or really slow if plug in windows are open while bouncing. Has any else noticed this?
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This was a huge issue for me on my 2010 iMac with iZotope plugins such as RX 2Advanced. The screen didn't really freeze but it looked like it did. The workaround was simple: Close the plug-in GUIs when done.

I don't have that problem anymore but do notice that, if I leave those windows open, BTD is not as fast. Going from 24 bit to working in 32 bit float has a much greater effect. There's no noticeable speed difference bouncing to 24 bit vs 32 bit float but Adobe Premiere sometimes crashes if I use 32 bit audio so 24 bit Bounce it is.

One of the reasons that I'm looking forward to getting a Mac Studio is to see if BTD becomes snappy again.
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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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LIke I said this is only an issue on windows and I'll add that it doesn't seem to correlate with plugin processing demand.
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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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I have no idea. It’s not officially supported. If you like torturing yourself you can try and get it to work with some kind of emulation.
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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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pencilina wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 1:24 pm LIke I said this is only an issue on windows and I'll add that it doesn't seem to correlate with plugin processing demand.
And like I said, this can be an issue for Mac or Windows and it has nothing to do with plugin processing demand. It's the GUIs being open — close the windows and the symptoms go away.

Once I stepped up to a 14 Core iMac Pro, this gremlin went away but on my 2010 iMac i7, I had to make sure the windows were closed before I bounced. Some plugs were more noticeable than others with iZotope RX being the worst for me.
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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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I am bouncing one audio track to mp3 right now no plugins used or windows open. The bounce seems to pause and then will start up again seems to take like 5 min. Usually never does that with large projects . Just installed 11.11 update recently this is strange behavior .

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Re: DP11.1 W10 Offline Bounces Slower w/plugin windows open

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towerproductions wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:47 pm I am bouncing one audio track to mp3 right now no plugins used or windows open. The bounce seems to pause and then will start up again seems to take like 5 min. Usually never does that with large projects . Just installed 11.11 update recently this is strange behavior .

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Noted by many in the past, myself included. When bouncing to mp3 you are also converting from wav or aif at whatever sample rate in addition to rendering plug ins. This can slow DP way down.

For this reason, I never, ever bounce to mp3 in DP. Instead, I use an external converter. Though I use TwistedWave, there are many converters, free and paid including QuickTime built into the MacOS.

On my Mac, a one hour live stereo track with a peak limiter and maybe a reverb plug-in takes about 7 minutes or so to bounce to wav or around 50 minutes to bounce and convert to mp3. TwistedWave does the wav to mp3 conversion in less than a minute.

It makes sense that DP 11.11 takes longer on a MP 5.1 than whatever version you were using before.
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