Performer Lite - crashing every few minutes

[silkytom]

Hi all

Just picked up an M4 to go with my (relatively clean) Windows laptop so I can get some ideas down without having to so into the spare room where my studio mac is ( which is still running DP7.2.4 quite happily).

I installed Performer Lite - I've not been able to keep it open for more than a few minutes without it closing. Even changing a tempo from 120 bpm in a brand new project causes it to close. RE-installed a couple of times - no improvement.

It only recognises the FX version of Softube Modular, not the full instrument version. A number of VSTs don't pass the authorization test, including Izotope and NI ones.

It's pretty poor for me. I guess it's early days for Lite, but I'm already thinking about shelling out the licence fee for Reaper instead.

If this is what DP is like on Windows I'm definitely not going to open my wallet and get DP10 for my lappy.

Anyone else had experience of it yet?

[CharlzS]

Don't have Lite, but maybe plug preferences are the same as DP. In Plugin Prefs, do you have it set for VST2 or VST3 as the primary? NI doesn't provide VST3. Also, any of the Izotope entries in the plug list that begin with iZ are not the actual plugs and won't validate. If set for VST3 primary, try switching to VST2 as it's much more forgiving in validation. The Softube stuff should validate as VST2. I can't get several plugs to validate as VST3. If you want to re-validate all the plugs you can remove the plug caches. Don't know wharer they are in Lite, but Lite should follow same convention as DP and should be located somewhere around here: C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\MOTU\MOTU Audio System

[HCMarkus]

Don't know about Lite, but if your studio Mac is still going strong, you might want to try out DP10.11; it is working really well for me on my Mac Pro, and you will be able to try it out on your Windows laptop, too. Lots of improvements since DP7... with pre-rendering, it allows us to get more from our hardware than ever. And, based on reports here, at least a few Windows users are finding it works well on their hardware.

[silkytom]

Thanks

Yeah, Thanks for the info. I felt that VST2 validation gave me a few more options. I've momved some of the VST files around. I'll have a further tidy up and see what I can get working.

The mac I'm on (ignore my sig, you can tell how long ago I was active here!!) is only a 2009 quad core (I think) but it runs 10.6.8 with the old powercore PCI- cards which I'm fond of. There's no real reason to mess about with the setup, no new software I need or want, so I tend not to move on too much. It's rock solid for me.

The M4 for my windows laptop was just to get ideas down in a more "family friendly" way (as in without disappearing for hours) but I'm so disappointed by how often Lite crashes. My record for having a session open is about 6 or 7 minutes. AS it stands it is unusable

[loudon1177]

I actually just spoke to MOTU tech support about this. Mine is crashing every time I click in the tempo window, even on a brand new project. I was told they are aware of the problem and are working on it, and it should be fixed with the next update hopefully within a couple weeks.

[silkytom]

Thanks Loudon.

Yeah, it's reaaallly buggy. So many simple operations cause it to crash. I'm too scared to click on anything new, just in case!

It's a new (and kind of free) product I guess these things happen. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. Will wait for the update.

[Pi-Qui]

I bought a Motu M2 for home use, installed Performer Lite 10 on my dell precision M4600 with 24Gb RAM and i7 2960XM, I was curious how the program would perform. Well it doesnt perform despite its name. It locks up with every action I take, have to restart the laptop everytime to get it working again. the laptop totally freezes, Mark of the Unicorn should be Mark of the Crashes. The program really sucks, I would never buy Digital performer 10 because of performer Lite, it isnt stable at all, LOL, its stable in its unstability. I also work with Ableton Live Suite 10, no problems at all. The team of Digital performer have to do their homework, performer lite is rubbish!!!

[CharlzS]

I bought a Motu M2 for home use, installed Performer Lite 10 on my dell precision M4600 with 24Gb RAM and i7 2960XM, I was curious how the program would perform. Well it doesnt perform despite its name. It locks up with every action I take, have to restart the laptop everytime to get it working again. the laptop totally freezes, Mark of the Unicorn should be Mark of the Crashes. The program really sucks, I would never buy Digital performer 10 because of performer Lite, it isnt stable at all, LOL, its stable in its unstability. I also work with Ableton Live Suite 10, no problems at all. The team of Digital performer have to do their homework, performer lite is rubbish!!!

Just curious - if you have dual graphics, does it still crash if you disable the Nvidia (or AMD) graphics adapter and just use the Intel onboard? The total freeze might indicate a hardware issue. Most recent M2 drivers installed? A new version was posted not that long ago.

[Pi-Qui]

Hi, it doesnt have dual graphics and all the drivers are the latest, also firmware 1.02 for M2. The laptop is up to date for as far as that is possible for a computer from 2013. Grtz Pi-Qui

[CharlzS]

OK, so no Intel HD graphics display adapter listed in the Device Manager. Anyway, don't judge DP by the issues you're having with Performer Lite. If you have the time, try the full DP demo - fully functional for 30 days. I run DP on a PC and there are a couple of minor issues, but nothing like what you are describing with PL. Also, MOTU tech support is very helpful.

[silkytom]

The 10.12 Lite update is a lot more stable. Not perfect but much more usable.

Did have a crash when trialling Reason Rack plugins, though.