Four words: Moons Over My HammyFrodo wrote:Their pancakes aren't bad, either!James Steele wrote:Hey if you're not going to eat your country fried steak & eggs, I'll take it!MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I get senior discounts at Denny's! Now all I have to do is bring myself to actually eat the crap they sell and my world will be perfect. LOL!
Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
- Gravity Jim
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
A Denny's on the east side of Seattle, right off the freeway near my hotel, made the best breakfast (including the most perfect hash browns) that I've had in years.
Now, IHOP... that's nasty.
Although nowhere near as nasty as Waffle House, which was accurately described thusly by Jim Gaffigan: "If you've never been to a Waffle House, imagine a gas station bathroom.... that serves waffles."
Now, IHOP... that's nasty.
Although nowhere near as nasty as Waffle House, which was accurately described thusly by Jim Gaffigan: "If you've never been to a Waffle House, imagine a gas station bathroom.... that serves waffles."
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
Well in the South East the Waffle House's I've been to are actually quite good.Gravity Jim wrote:A Denny's on the east side of Seattle, right off the freeway near my hotel, made the best breakfast (including the most perfect hash browns) that I've had in years.
Now, IHOP... that's nasty.
Although nowhere near as nasty as Waffle House, which was accurately described thusly by Jim Gaffigan: "If you've never been to a Waffle House, imagine a gas station bathroom.... that serves waffles."
Virginia,North and South Carolina etc....
My ex who's French with a picky foodie attitude still raves about Waffle House,lol!
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
Hmm. Those waffles have terroir.kgdrum wrote:My ex who's French with a picky foodie attitude still raves about Waffle House,lol!
Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
Mmmm looks tasty!
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
Denny's? Really? Must be different south of 49.
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
They even have a hobbit menu.
I wouldn't advise doing the pancakes in pre-gen mode, tho'. One might discover an "unexpected journey" of their own.
I wouldn't advise doing the pancakes in pre-gen mode, tho'. One might discover an "unexpected journey" of their own.
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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- twistedtom
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
I stay way from pregen resturaunts and mostly go to real food resturants.
Most of my projects are not so large that I need to use percent or freze tracts. The 32bit limit is more of a handymcapmto me, So I am running in 64bits for most things.
Most of my projects are not so large that I need to use percent or freze tracts. The 32bit limit is more of a handymcapmto me, So I am running in 64bits for most things.
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- Shooshie
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
Usually, I use real-time plugins and VI's. One reason for this is that I leave my plugin windows open a lot -- in other "spaces." When plugin windows are open, they run in real-time.
I've had pretty good luck with pre-gen plugins, but often I just can't use them that way.
Shooshie
I've had pretty good luck with pre-gen plugins, but often I just can't use them that way.
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
In case anyone is interested, it seems Metric Halo's Channel Strip V3 doesn't like pre-gen mode as well. I noticed some random clicks and pops on a vocal track with the plugin inserted. With the plugin window open, the clicks went away. Set it to run real time, no problems.
Carlos
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Carlos
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Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
I concur. Working on a session with only a couple plugins I wouldn't normally use, MH Channelstrip and WavesTune LT, I was getting random clicks and artifacts that were driving me bonkers. Even upon bounce to disc. Different spots every single time. Switching from pregen to realtime made fixed everything.
Re: Best practice: Real-time vs. Pre-Gen?
I always have the default "pregen when possible" on and have rarely had issues, but one time I was getting this sudden and mysterious beachball problem and traced it to a particular Kontakt instrument I had programmed myself (phrase samples mapped across the full 88-note keyboard; beachballs only when that particular Kontakt program was loaded in a project). Switching that one instance to real time got rid of the beachball.
In general, I say leave it on. But the key things to bear in mind are:
- Remember to close your plugin windows or you won't see any benefit.
- Remember that you have it on, so that if you DO see any weirdness, you can try selectively switching to real time as trouble-shooting technique.
This SOS article by the ever-brilliant DP boffin, Robin "Biggie" Bigwood, nicely lays out the scoop on pregen:
https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec08/ ... rkshop.htm
Babz
P.S. Drawn to Denny's hash browns like catnip.
In general, I say leave it on. But the key things to bear in mind are:
- Remember to close your plugin windows or you won't see any benefit.
- Remember that you have it on, so that if you DO see any weirdness, you can try selectively switching to real time as trouble-shooting technique.
This SOS article by the ever-brilliant DP boffin, Robin "Biggie" Bigwood, nicely lays out the scoop on pregen:
https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec08/ ... rkshop.htm
Babz
P.S. Drawn to Denny's hash browns like catnip.