DP: Varispeed Pitch Shifting
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DP: Varispeed Pitch Shifting
This is one way to achieve varispeed-esque pitch shifting in DP. Using this method, shifting -up- or -down- above a soundbite's base pitch (encoded sample rate) yields better results than shifting below the soundbite's base pitch.
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You may have to let it run a bit...
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What is this video suppose to be showing us? I can't make any sense out of it. Perhaps the audio isn't playing correctly?
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Re: DP: Varispeed Pitch Shifting
It's actually showing how to do a pitch bend, like using a pitch wheel, on audio. Actually nothing to do with varispeed (which is all about changing the pitch AND time, like using a speed control on a tape machine)
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Re: DP: Varispeed Pitch Shifting
Using a pitch wheel has "nothing to do with varispeed"? Erm... Have you ever played with the pitch wheel on a traditional sampler? The pitch and time change as you move the wheel. Doing so amounts to the digital equivalent of tape varispeed.stephentayler wrote:It's actually showing how to do a pitch bend, like using a pitch wheel, on audio. Actually nothing to do with varispeed (which is all about changing the pitch AND time, like using a speed control on a tape machine)
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"Standard Pitch Shift" mode for soundbites puts DP's pitch automation into control of the pitch and duration of the digital audio. It is not a true emulation of tape varispeed, however, because in going below the soundbite's encoded sampling rate, DP's algorithm forces what would be a longer soundbite into truncated pieces; hence, the note about going above the encoded sampling rate yielding better results.
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As I listen I can say I don't want to ever use varispeed in my productions...
I never even heard of the effect... I must be in the dark ages.
I know about changing the speed of the capstan on an analog machine, but never had the urge to go do that during a production... my band mates would whoop my rear end!!! Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I never even heard of the effect... I must be in the dark ages.
I know about changing the speed of the capstan on an analog machine, but never had the urge to go do that during a production... my band mates would whoop my rear end!!! Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I think the idea is a good alternative if the chipmunk effect is desired. Maybe Umbrella could have chosen a different sample to do his video with. So that we could've seen (and heard) the effect of varispeed a bit more. And in a less speaker blowing way...
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Re: DP: Varispeed Pitch Shifting
I agree. Based on this example vari-speed seems not at all useful. No offense Umbrella. Thank you for taking the time to create this video and posting, but it's not a demo of vari-speed exactly. It just sounds and looks like you're modifying pitch automation. Does that program sound different without Standard Pitch Shift?macguy wrote:As I listen I can say I don't want to ever use varispeed in my productions...
I never even heard of the effect... I must be in the dark ages.
I know about changing the speed of the capstan on an analog machine, but never had the urge to go do that during a production... my band mates would whoop my rear end!!! Different strokes for different folks I guess.
At the risk of re-heating a common topic, until the digital era vari-speed usage was common. Debatably as common as delay, eq and compression. Nearly every Beatles recording from Rubber Soul on employed vari-speed at some point in the process. Listen to Strawberry Fields Forever for a veritable showcase of what this technique is capable of.
More than you could possibly want to read on the subject: http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... vari+speed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I think varispeed is indeed useful; but I use SoundHack for the real deal. Don't make fun of music that's not your style... all tools are useful to someone and I appreciate Umbrella giving it a shot for us all!
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As already mentioned above, the Beatles used varispeed in a lot of songs by indeed varying the speed on the tape machine. It was a good stroke for those folks, and for the generations who have loved the songs they created employing this technique and variations of it.macguy wrote:As I listen I can say I don't want to ever use varispeed in my productions...
I never even heard of the effect... I must be in the dark ages.
I know about changing the speed of the capstan on an analog machine, but never had the urge to go do that during a production... my band mates would whoop my rear end!!! Different strokes for different folks I guess.
So you really must be in the dark ages... (i.e. the era before multi-track recording.)
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