No trim levels for analog inputs in cuemix

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miltoskorg
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No trim levels for analog inputs in cuemix

Post by miltoskorg »

Hello everybody!!!
I own a 896 mk3 and use the cuemix fx (in Mac OSX) for the headphones mixes.The problem is that there is no trim level for the analog inputs in cuemix so i can calibrate the incoming levels.I also use an AVALON Vt 737 sp and a Joemeek twinq as preamps.
I did a test using a white noise generator from Logic Pro, passing the signal through the Joemeek.The 896 mk3 output (connected to Joemeek) was sending the signal in the level of -1 db.In order to take the same level at the return input ,the Joemeek VU meter show about -10 db.If i use the -20 db pad of 896 mk3,the signal i get is weak and the preamps are to set to their limits as a result i get destorted or noisy signal because of the gain.
I downloaded the latest version of MOTU Universal Audio Installer for Mac OS X (1.6.50450),but still the same,NO TRIM LEVELS.Is there something wrong with my installation or an other download of the cuemix fx so i could solve this issue?
Thanks for the intresting!!!
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Re: No trim levels for analog inputs in cuemix

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The TRIMS are in an odd place in CueMix FX, different from previous screen layouts. They're on the INPUTS tab, at the bottom. Also, make sure you're displaying the mic inputs, not the ADAT inputs (which, of course, have no trims).

As for the volumes, what are your references? dBFS, dBm, or VU? If I were testing a line-level device, I would send a -12 dBFS (12 dB below maximum digital output) sine wave from software to an 896 output, and connect that to the JoeMeek EQ input. If the Meek has a VU meter, I'd adjust the Meek's input gain until it reads "0". I'd connect the output of the JoeMeek to a line input of the MOTU, set the sensitivity to +4 on the MOTU, and if the Meek has an output gain control, I'd adjust that until my MOTU input meter reads "-12" (in the software meter, or on the front panel). Now your Meek is set for unity gain, and you have plenty of headroom (probably 6 to 12 dB). You could trade this headroom for low noise if you want (higher input, lower output, unity gain).

If you're using the Avalon as a mic preamp, I'd do the same, but would use a -50 dBFS sine wave output.

Keep in mind if your cables are unbalanced from a balanced source, you might be losing 6 dB of gain.
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Re: No trim levels for analog inputs in cuemix

Post by bayswater »

I see trims somewhere above the centre of the Input tab. And they are on all the input channels, including ADATs, although the range varies by input type.

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