CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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Hello all.

Basically I now have a machine room where I can finally keep my Mac's cooled and isolated.
I tried to extend a USB cable about 22 feet, but after reading, apparently you can't have a USB cable longer than 16ft. DOH! :banghead:

SO, I found a Gefen USB mini extender (over CAT5). When I read the specs for this device it does say that it only transmits USB 1.1 (as opposed to the faster 2.0)

I have 2 MOTU MIDI Time Piece's (MTP) and a mouse and a keyboard all on a USB hub. (which use to go straight to my computer w/ no problems) and then that hub goes to the CAT5 extender. which the other side goes to my computer in the Machine room.

Does anyone have any issues with using a MTP this way???

I guess worse case I can get a USB 2.0 extender... just tryin to save some mula$$.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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It might work or you could also probably use another USB hub in the cable run as an extender.
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Re: CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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pencilina wrote:you could also probably use another USB hub in the cable run as an extender.
Right. Unfortunately, the distance from my Mac through the wall is just over 16ft.

Mainly my question is, will the MTP AV work over a USB 1.1 connection? (instead of USB 2.0)

Thanks!!

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Re: CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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>Mainly my question is, will the MTP AV work over a USB 1.1 connection? (instead of USB 2.0)<

Since the MTP AV existed before USB 2 (I first used mine with a Beige G3), the answer should be yes. All usb devices are supposed to be backwards compatible.

The real question: Is it any better over USB 2? Since MIDI and TimeCode use such little bandwidth, I would think that the answer to that would be, "no" but I could be wrong.
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Re: CAT5 USB extender work w/ MTP?

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Marc7777 wrote:Mainly my question is, will the MTP AV work over a USB 1.1 connection? (instead of USB 2.0)
Yes, USB 1 is plenty fast for it. I have a MTP AV and a MTP XT both running on my USB 1.1 CAT5 Extension, never a problem. My machine room is about 50 cable feet away. I have a nice Belkin USB hub on the extended side, so I can have the 2 MTPs, a keyboard/mouse, or any other low-speed device in there. I have 3 low-speed, and 2 high-speed USB extenders in my setup.

I don't turn the MTPs on much anymore, because nearly everything is direct USB controllers and VI's for me nowadays.
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