Slow down a soundbite

[James Steele]

Yep... 'tis glaring. How anybody creates any music with it, I can't imagine. I guess it all boils down to the likelihood you would ever NEED this feature.

[mhschmieder]

Yep, I've recorded sixteen compositions this past week alone, but one could definitely characterize the speed of each project as variable.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I just don't understand it all.

[James Steele]

...but one could definitely characterize the speed of each project as variable.

You must know my old drummer.

[buzzsmith]

You must know my old drummer.

Did he move to Houston?!! I think I know him!

Buzzy

[ioguie]

Yep... 'tis glaring. How anybody creates any music with it, I can't imagine. I guess it all boils down to the likelihood you would ever NEED this feature.

I'm using it for post-production, in the creation of a radio show. I wasn't aware DP isn't marketed or intended for such non-musical uses

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I'm using it for post-production, in the creation of a radio show. I wasn't aware DP isn't marketed or intended for such non-musical uses

This last post gave me an idea for a new section here at MOTUNation. No, not Varispeed, but HYPERBOLE.

Varispeed is not something many people working in post have a need for. Resources at MOTU are better spent in actual useful plugs and features that most users will use.

You have other 3rd party varispeed options just as you have other noise reduction options (which is something I'd rather see first in DP before VS). Of course, you don't see a need to spend any money - in which case you get what you pay for.

[ioguie]

This last post gave me an idea for a new section here at MOTUNation. No, not Varispeed, but HYPERBOLE.

Varispeed is not something many people working in post have a need for. Resources at MOTU are better spent in actual useful plugs and features that most users will use.

MOTU's resources are not my problem. Are they yours?

The first reference I ever saw to the word "varispeed" was on a Roland VS-series recorder. It is used there to compensate for timing inaccuracies when set to external sync and the incoming MTC is faster or slower than the existing audio. VS-series recorders are made for musicians... I would think that feature is useful to musicians.

You have other 3rd party varispeed options just as you have other noise reduction options (which is something I'd rather see first in DP before VS). Of course, you don't see a need to spend any money - in which case you get what you pay for.

Jeepers. I am not a pro. I am a hobbyist. I do not have money to throw at this stuff -- I already threw my money at it. Tax refund money. And now I'm finding that it can't do what I need it to. Am I allowed disappointment? Buyer's remorse? Like when I bought my car and thought it had an audio input jack on the stereo but actually it didn't. I'm still driving the car though! It's my own dumb fault!

And of course I'm not going to spend more $$ to do something in DP when I've found that I can just do it in something else I already also own. If I was already DP-centric, and not trying to move to it as an experiment, maybe it would be a different story.

[David Polich]

Ooooh!!! Another varispeed topic!!

DP doesn't do it, so I use ProTools or MachFive.

(Remember what happened last time??)

Stephen

I think the "last time" was the beginning of Harley's rampage, if I
recall correctly.

But not to go there again - honestly I don't see what the big deal on
this is. If all you want to do is change the pitch - can't you do this
with DP's pitch correction? Really, this is a no-brainer. Changing the
pitch would drop it to where the desired pitch is - even if the speed
is the same, I think that was the original goal, right?

And if you wanted to change the speed AND the pitch - use "adjust soundbite
to sequence tempo" and then use DP's pitch correction.

This just doesn't seem like a job for a Varispeed plug-in to me.

[James Steele]

This last post gave me an idea for a new section here at MOTUNation. No, not Varispeed, but HYPERBOLE.

Varispeed is not something many people working in post have a need for. Resources at MOTU are better spent in actual useful plugs and features that most users will use.

MOTU's resources are not my problem.

Actually they appear to be, because MOTU obviously hasn't see fit to allocating resources to build in a feature you feel they *should* have. That happens a lot on this board where we want DP to contain every imaginable tool for every imaginable situation and sometimes it may not be there. But as mentioned, that's why some of us use certain 3rd party solutions to get the job done. You may also expect that DP come with every VI you'll ever need and every plug-in you'll ever need, but that's not that realistic and most of us here have spent FAR MORE on third party plugs than than we have on the purchase price for DP, probably including periodic upgrades.

Maybe some day they'll include this feature. Sometimes MOTU does include features in DP that would only be available as 3rd party plugs in other DAWs. A prime example is the built-in pitch correction capabilities in the Sequence Editor that only DP had for years before any competing DAW.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Oh man, so no HYPERBOLE section? We could invite a bumped member to come back to moderate it! LOL!

[HCMarkus]

IMHO the best way to accomplish what the OP desires is by recording using a variable speed clock set slightly fast (to match the slightly fast playback) then return to normal clock speed on playback OR (drum roll please) use a cassette deck with varispeed when recording to get things right on the way into the digital domain.

Any digital process is prone to artifacts. Good ole analog varispeed is the way to go!

Dave Polich is right, though... DP has the tools. With a little thought (and maybe a little math) the OP can accomplish what he seeks in DP with no additional purchase required.

Another tool within DP that will do what the OP wants is the built in sampler.

PS: I'm still waiting for someone to offer for sale a reasonably priced external variable clock. I keep threatening to buy an old ADAT for this purpose.

[airtime]

There is no simple, clean and direct way that I know of in DP to get a basic adjustable "speed change" of playback of a soundbite. There is, however, just such an effect plug that comes with Audacity, a moderately functional and easy to use DAW that's available FREE for the asking at

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You'll need to learn the basics of how to use Audacity, of course, but it is not at all difficult even though its GUI is different from DP's. Once you're handy with it you could use it to correct the playback speed of your digitally copied cassette recordings, and then use the corrected copies in your DP projects.

Big Advantage: it's free!

Disadvantage: you have to spend a little time to learn how to use Audacity.

Resolution: now you have a new tool to add to your bag of audio tricks. Audacity offers other attractive features too.

But it will never replace Digital Performer. Nope. No way.

Wayne

[Phil O]

If all you want to do is change the pitch - can't you do this
with DP's pitch correction? Really, this is a no-brainer. Changing the
pitch would drop it to where the desired pitch is - even if the speed
is the same, I think that was the original goal, right?

And if you wanted to change the speed AND the pitch - use "adjust soundbite
to sequence tempo" and then use DP's pitch correction.

Also, there's Transpose under the Region menu. If you click on Transpose Audio and select the Interval tab, there's an option to fine tune the soundbite by cents. Select PureDSP or Standard in the Sound File Info window.

Phil

[bayswater]

Slowing a sound bite down is the same as making it longer without changing pitch, right? Chapter 75 in the manual?