DP 7.22 released

[Shooshie]

Here's one for you guys.. I got my new Mac Pro today. Do I install 7.21, or 7.22?

Answer: I install 7.2.1 first, then after I get that working, install 7.22. If something gets broken, I go back. If all is good, I go forward.

I mean seriously, how hard is it?

Exactly. Why do people take this so seriously? If you're working on a professional project, of course you don't want to change in the middle of it. But that still doesn't mean you can't install it.

Now, where I exercise caution is when installing drivers. I don't update drivers until I recognize that I'm getting problems associated with them and incompatibility with newer versions of OSX, DP, Logic, or other software. I often skip a level or two of drivers if things are working great. But drivers are not where your features are based. A good driver is one you never know is there. If I install a new version of DP and instantly get crashes, I'll check to see how old my drivers are. Chances are, installing the latest driver will fix everything, and that has indeed been the case occasionally in the past.

But installing a new version of DP generally can cause no harm unless it saves a file in a new format. So, ALWAYS OPEN A COPY of your file when working in a new version. Then you can go back to the old version, old copy, without any hassle at all.

Please folks! No drama! Install DP 7.22. If it works; great. If you have trouble, keep using 7.21. Cost to you: $00.00 As you get time to troubleshoot, keep trying the new version. Eventually you'll get there.

Shooshie

[Phil O]

Yeah, for me, a few little things have popped up but nothing that would warrant reverting to 7.21. Just because a few people have reported their particular problems that doesn't mean the program isn't ready for prime time. Take the plunge and try it out. It's working flawlessly for most people. It probably will for you too. I haven't been afraid to use it with clients. That's the acid test for me.

Phil

[williemyers]

I install 7.2.1 first, then after I get that working, install 7.22. If something gets broken, I go back. If all is good, I go forward. I mean seriously, how hard is it?

a bit harder than you're giving credit for, I think.
the only way to safely run any two versions of DP - or any other app, for that matter - is to install them on two separate partitions/drives, each containing it's own OSX.
if you install, say DP 7.22 on the the same OS that you have 7.21 installed on, you face 2 potentially significant problems; if there's a "problem" with 7.22, you're going to have to deal with that *and* you've already overwritten many, many 7.21-specific files with 7.22 versions so 7.21 may or may not be as clean as it was before the installation.
I think a log of guys here do have a separate "test" partition or drive just for running new versions...the way to do it
and then, as Shooshie mentioned, there are those driver issues.....
so

how hard is it?

not hard at all...*IF* you're using two partitions/drives with two OSX's

[KEVORKIAN]

I install 7.2.1 first, then after I get that working, install 7.22. If something gets broken, I go back. If all is good, I go forward. I mean seriously, how hard is it?

a bit harder than you're giving credit for, I think.
the only way to safely run any two versions of DP - or any other app, for that matter - is to install them on two separate partitions/drives, each containing it's own OSX.
if you install, say DP 7.22 on the the same OS that you have 7.21 installed on, you face 2 potentially significant problems; if there's a "problem" with 7.22, you're going to have to deal with that *and* you've already overwritten many, many 7.21-specific files with 7.22 versions so 7.21 may or may not be as clean as it was before the installation.
I think a log of guys here do have a separate "test" partition or drive just for running new versions...the way to do it
and then, as Shooshie mentioned, there are those driver issues.....
so

how hard is it?

not hard at all...*IF* you're using two partitions/drives with two OSX's

Just clone/backup your drive before you update DP. Then you can always go back.

Hopefully people are keeping their audio and project files on a separate drive from the boot volume (recommended). If so then reverting is easy.

[tommymandel]

Working great here too!

Merry Christmas, James - Nice that MOTU sent a holiday Update.
7.22 working fine AFAICT on my G5 Tower.
Goin to install it onto my 2007.5MBP now.

[HCMarkus]

7.22 working fine AFAICT on my G5 Tower.
Goin to install it onto my 2007.5MBP now.

What O/S Tommy? 10.5.8?

[glea]

Loaded it up today. Project created in 7.21 opened right up, no problems.

[tommymandel]

7.22 working fine AFAICT on my G5 Tower.
Goin to install it onto my 2007.5MBP now.

What O/S Tommy? 10.5.8?

Yes, HC, 10.5.8.

[Shooshie]

I install 7.2.1 first, then after I get that working, install 7.22. If something gets broken, I go back. If all is good, I go forward. I mean seriously, how hard is it?

a bit harder than you're giving credit for, I think.
the only way to safely run any two versions of DP - or any other app, for that matter - is to install them on two separate partitions/drives, each containing it's own OSX.

Well now, that would be the easy way, but it wouldn't be the cowboy way! Nah, it depends on the versions. Obviously, you can't go back and forth between DP 5 and 6 without some potential issues. Likewise, there was a recent version that changed audio formats, analysis files, and fades. You probably wouldn't want to go back and forth between that and its previous version. But Dp 7.21 to Dp 7.22 probably won't present any issues going back and forth. Sure, you could load them on separate OS partitions, but that would be a lot of trouble when you go back and forth between them. I say just keep 'em both on the same drive, then mount up that hoss and hold on tight! Yeee-haww!

Shoosh

PS: if the hoss lays down and stops breathin', try to avoid the temptation to do THIS:

[BobK]

I haven't worked it real hard, but so far I've had no problems at all with 7.22 - running VIs, doing a little bit of MIDI recording, and raising the tempo of four multi-track audio projects which were originally created in DP 5 or 6. I'm a happy camper.

Oh...and I agree with Shooshie - I wouldn't worry about 7.21 and 7.22 on the same drive.

[williemyers]

Well now, that would be the easy way, but it wouldn't be the cowboy way! Nah, it depends on the versions.

yup, pardner, I would agree with you on that.

Dp 7.21 to Dp 7.22 probably won't present any issues going back and forth.

It's the "probably won't" thing that's always thrown me a curveball (or a cowpie),...even when installing 7.22 on top of 7.21, there are files - some MOTU, some OSX - that are changed and then when trying to "go back" and run 7.21, you may get glitches that you didn't have before. So, short of running on seperate systems, no way to really be sure. OTOH,

Sure, you could load them on separate OS partitions, but that would be a lot of trouble when you go back and forth between them.

Unfortunately, it is... a *LOT* of trouble. I actually have to have duplicate plugs running on both systems to make a proper analysis.

I say just keep 'em both on the same drive, then mount up that hoss and hold on tight!

at the end of the roundup, I think your solution's as good as mine...maybe better.
happy Christmas and Yeee-haww! to all DP'er's!
(btw, put me in the camp of "I'm running 7.22 w/o problems"

[cowtothesky]

I'm 95% sure that I won't run into any problems with DP7.22. But, I'm going to wait until I finish a project before going for the plunge. Probably update it the first of the year.

[David Polich]

I have both 7.21 and 7.22 on my system drive and can back and forth between
them without any problems at all. I've had no trouble whatsoever with 7.22.
In fact, I forgot I still need to compress 7.21...will do that later today.

FWIW, I've never partitioned a system drive, ever. I've never had more than one user account on a system drive. And I've never had
problems due to those decisions.

I think worries about 7.22 are overblown. I say just go ahead and make the
move if you haven't done so.

[monkey man]

... In fact, I forgot I still need to compress 7.21...will do that later today.

Apart from the obvious (it's there should you need it), I've always done this as a means of ensuring the older version isn't inadvertently opened, something that should it occur may not be obvious, especially where minor upgrades are concerned. Great call, Dave.

FWIW, I've never partitioned a system drive, ever.

Me neither.

I've never had more than one user account on a system drive.

Me neither.

And I've never had problems due to those decisions.

Me neither.

I think worries about 7.22 are overblown. I say just go ahead and make the move if you haven't done so.

+1

[waitsongs]

In fact, I forgot I still need to compress 7.21...will do that later today.

I never thought about compressing previous versions of DP. Can you please explain what you mean by this and how one does it properly? Thanks.