Ampeg SVX: "Ooooh, Daddy like......"

ryst · Post by **ryst** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:37 pm

I got this thing a couple weeks ago hoping to find a better solution for bass amp modeling for my apartment studio. I usually use NI's Guitar Rig but this does a better job IMO for bass amps. I can get a lot of different tones out of it. Anyone else tried this?

mikebeckmotu · Post by **mikebeckmotu** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:39 pm

I've been wondering the same thing. I use either Guitar Rig or the Toneport. I'm hesitant to spend that kind of money for SVX, when I'm usually only adding bass guitar because a song needs it rather than being a true bassist.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:03 pm

Yep, unfortunately my 10 day demo has run out now, but I thought it sounded great. I'm very seriously thinking about getting it. Especially now that it supports a stand alone version (good for jamming with lower latencies than is possible as a plug-in inside DP).

The thing that struck me was that it sounded great upon initializing, before I'd even tweaked a single setting. It also seems to me that it sits the bass 'inside' the mix alot better than a straight DI'ed Bass track.

Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:40 pm

Any more opinions? I can't demo on 10.3.9 but am considering getting while IK have a deal on.

Any Bass Podxt owners care to share comparisons?

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:54 pm

Yeah, I'm curious about this too. Does it really sounds better than just plugging your directly and tweak it with normal plug ins?

ryst · Post by **ryst** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:06 pm

Dwetmaster wrote:Yeah, I'm curious about this too. Does it really sounds better than just plugging your directly and tweak it with normal plug ins?

I definitely think so. Then again, I have never been that happy with my bass sounds but it seems a lot faster to get the sound that I want with this plug in. I dig it a lot.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:34 pm

Dwetmaster wrote:Yeah, I'm curious about this too. Does it really sounds better than just plugging your directly and tweak it with normal plug ins?

Yes, definite improvement. I had to muck around with MW Compressor for quite a while to get a sound that was still not as good as the Ampeg plug's default settings.

Basically it's like the difference between straight DI sound and putting it through an expensive amp. (funny that

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Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:47 pm

Mr_Clifford wrote:Basically it's like the difference between straight DI sound and putting it through an expensive amp. (funny that Smile)

I would have to try my bass directly with svx and compare it with my bass through my expensive amp and see the difference...

daveyboy · Post by **daveyboy** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:51 pm

I've been playing with the demo this week and really like it as well. I usually DI the bass through an API 312, adding tube compression and then using other software to reamp as needed, like Trash. I like Trash but I seem to lose some low end. The Ampeg plug is definitely thick sounding. Try the demo if you haven't yet to judge for yourselves.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:02 am

Dwetmaster wrote:
Mr_Clifford wrote:Basically it's like the difference between straight DI sound and putting it through an expensive amp. (funny that Smile)
I would have to try my bass directly with svx and compare it with my bass through my expensive amp and see the difference...

Well I wouldn't expect it to actually be as good as the real thing (if my experience with Guitar amp simulators is anything to go by), but way better than recording DI and then adding EQ & compression plug-ins to it.

I would, however, love to hear your thoughts if you do get a chance to compare it to 'doing it for real'.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:42 am

Ok I'll try it during the vacations. The only thing is that I'm more of an SWR Guy than Ampeg so I don't know what will happen when I compare my SM900(An Amp that I love) to a plug in version of an Amp that I'm not to familiar with. I respect Ampeg a lot but they've never been my thing too much. I guess I might be surprised. I'll report back...

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:58 pm

I'm gonna check out the demo, even though I was not very impressed with IK's Amplitube.
The Ampeg (hardware) DI is real nice.
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-AMG-SVTDI.html

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:15 pm

Dwetmaster wrote: I respect Ampeg a lot but they've never been my thing too much. I guess I might be surprised. I'll report back...

Know what you mean. They have a very particular sound going on. I'm usually more of a Gallien Kruger fan myself (a friend of mine has one that sounds amazing), but for the band I'm playing in at the moment the Ampeg sounds suits us down to the ground (I'm not the bass player BTW). We can probably borrow one for the album we're recording at the moment but if the plug-in cuts it then I'd probably rather just use that.

TheHopiWay · Post by **TheHopiWay** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:36 pm

I'd be interested to hear how close they got it.
AS well as doing the Studio thing I've been a bassist for 40+ years and a huge Ampeg fan.
I have/use A '69 SVT, '64 B-12 fliptop , '66 B-25
a 64 Reverb-o-rocket as well as some newer SVT pre's and mosfet combos.
Still the convenience of a great plugin emulation would be welcome for tweaking projects brought in from other studios that just used a DI for the bass.
Sure would save some reamping hassle/time.

Mr_Clifford · Post by **Mr_Clifford** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:52 pm

TheHopiWay wrote:I'd be interested to hear how close they got it.
AS well as doing the Studio thing I've been a bassist for 40+ years and a huge Ampeg fan.
I have/use A '69 SVT, '64 B-12 fliptop , '66 B-25
a 64 Reverb-o-rocket as well as some newer SVT pre's and mosfet combos.
Still the convenience of a great plugin emulation would be welcome for tweaking projects brought in from other studios that just used a DI for the bass.
Sure would save some reamping hassle/time.

Sounds like you'd be the ideal person to do an A/B comparison with them.

If you get the time to download the demo and do it. I'm sure we'd all be very interested in what you think.