Is there any good reason to upgrade DAW drive to El Capitan?

[emulatorloo]

I have a music only HD I boot from when I want to use DP. I'm at Yosemite 10.10.03 on that drive.

I just installed a bunch of Plug-in updates that are allegedly El Capitan ready.

I backed up the boot drive and was about to do the El Capitan upgrade.

But got cold feet lol and decided to ask what you all thought.

Does El Capitan offer a DAW user anything over Yosemite?











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[MIDI Life Crisis]

I was under the impression it would speed up processing time but I don't see that as a result. It did fix some network access issues.

I lost a couple of apps. Final Cut Express and Snapper as well as Xfinder. No big deal. I also had to reactivate Quicktime7 to work with web browsers,otherwise if it wasn't HTML5 I couldn't play online stuff.

So basically my answer is Meh! I don't see any great shakes in El Cap and do see others struggling with some issues so my suggestion is stay where you are.

[TinenTech]

Based on my experience, I'd wait until someone gives a good reason. I went straight to 10.11.3 from 10.8, because Apple doesn't let you download Yosemite from their site anymore. Booting up takes much longer, and the only new OS feature I see of worth is the split-screen thing, and that's not essential. Meanwhile, I'm having an issue with MOTU Audio Setup that I never had under 10.8. (separate thread). I made sure to clone my old OS before upgrading, and might go back.

I'm not saying it doesn't work--both DP9 and PT12 seem to work OK, even on my low-memory machine, but I don't see the advantage as long as Apple is supporting Yosemite with security updates.

[mikehalloran]

I don't notice DP being faster – maybe a little but I didn't time it before/after.

Otherwise, the upgrade was a good thing once everyone sorted out the USB driver issues—which they did. Finale came out with 14.5.

Web browsing is faster than Yosemite—I have 60–100 tabs open on three monitors for my work at all times.

I need full compatibility with iOS 9 and only OS 10.11 gives me that. The dumbing down of Pages/Numbers/Keynote happened with Mavericks but iWork '09 still works if updated to v.9.3 and left in its original folder. Besides, the latest version of LibreOffice (freeware) opens those files (and Appleworks6, ClarisWorks, MacWrite Pro and MacWrite II) so I am good.

There are some email issues with Yahoo BizMail and all began in Yosemite and were caused by Yahoo.

Office 2004 stopped working in OS 10.8 but 2008 and 2011 are still good. The many problems with Office 2016 are Microsoft's.

[bayswater]

If it's a DP only drive, I can't see any reason to go to EC. I would, though update it to 10.10.5.

[HCMarkus]

10.8 is just perfect for me. I run El Cap on the non-studio Macs for iOS9 compatibility, but have no interest in upgrading the studio machine at this time. I'm not gonna' poke the bear (or the Mountain Lion, for that matter!)

[artfarm1]

Last week I went from OSX 10.8.5 right to the latest El Capitan 10.11.3.

Didn't experience any problems at all... in fact, the best OSX transition I've ever experienced.

I'm still on DP 8.0.7, and all is fine music-wise.

Had to update the MOTU MIDI and Audio drivers, and a few other apps, etc.

But, glad to report that my computer is happy.

Did the usual fix permissions right away, and also ran Disk Warrior 5 just because It's like a good luck charm after all these years.

I think the plunge is well worth it in every way, seeing as the Mac apps (Mail, Reminders) will synch up beautifully between all the Mac devices and computers you may be using.

The only thing to be careful of is with iPhoto and the new app that replaces it, called 'Photos'.

If you keep all your photos and movies on an external drive (you are, right?), then you have to copy the old iPhoto 'Masters' into a new library in Photos. Be sure to back up first!!!! But, all is fine and well with the new Photos application. It won't lose anything.

[mikehalloran]

The only thing to be careful of is with iPhoto and the new app that replaces it, called 'Photos'.

Good advice but, to clarify, that change happened in Yosemite.

[bayswater]

Also, to clarify, there were a lot of reports that once you have Photo you can't use Aperture or iPhoto any more. You do have to upgrade both of these, but the only real limitation is that Aperture and iPhoto can't load pictures directly from a Photo library. To avoid problems, decline when Photo offers to convert your existing picture libraries to its new format.

[emulatorloo]

Everyone: thanks so much for all the advice and hearing about your experiences! Really appreciate it.

So I ended up updating the dedicated DAW drive to 10.10.05 with security updates.

I will update my main boot drive to El Cap. Will back it up first of course. I am still on some ancient version of Adobe stuff.

You all are terrific. Thanks again.



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[Shooshie]

I am still on some ancient version of Adobe stuff.

If anything will make you regret upgrading, that's probably it. I remember that CS3 was starting to behave very badly around the time I upgraded to The OS before Yosemite. I think I bought CS6 in 2014. I can't remember anymore how many times I've bought Photoshop and Illustrator outright. At some point they always tell me that upgrades are no longer valid, and I'll have to start over. But I've been using them since about 1987 or so. I know I've bought it at least 3 times (I've got the manuals for that many), plus one each for my kids. Plus, I think I had to buy another version in there somewhere, for which I didn't get a manual. Geez, what an expensive bunch of software!

Or more accurately... here sits a first-class sucker!

Shoosh

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I'm using CS5 and CS6 stuff (as well as Acrobat Pro) in El Cap and it works just fine. I too have bought a lot of updates to Adobe stuff and want to put off "renting" their software on a yearly basis as long as possible.

[mikehalloran]

Weird things with Adobe and later Mac OS but not necessarily incompatible.

Acrobat Pro X works great and still updates.

I still use Photoshop 5 and Elements 6. I have Elements 9 and 10 also. I can install if I find and purge a number of old Adobe files first per instructions I found online—then they work fine.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

The Adobe spell checkers are dead for sure.