Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
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Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
Here's a heads up for anyone using an iPad as a additional sound module in DP (as I am). Korg has just released the iM1. It is a stand-alone app, but can also integrate with Gadget, appearing as a device within it. An additional 10-spot (in-app purchase) gets you extra presets. Now that there are software solutions allowing us to integrate the iPad into our DP set-ups without the need for additional hardware, I'm guessing more people may take advantage of this. If you already have the Korg Legacy Collection you may not need this, but then there's also the new Synthmaster Player app as well. This is shaping up to be a great Memorial Day weekend for iPad musicians!
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
This is very cool and to be expected. Even though I already have all of their stuff in plugin form with the full Korg Legacy collections, it's nice to have "hands on" control these synths with a tablet. I previously bought iMS-20 and iPolySix.
You said you use your iPad as a sound source - don't you find it has latency?
You said you use your iPad as a sound source - don't you find it has latency?
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
On one hand, it is very welcome, because right now for $20 (plus 10 in AIPs) you get a loaded M1. There are some very useable tones in there, and some sounds that just have utilitarian value (for demos, etc.).
On the other hand, the PCM sounds are a mixed bag, quality-wise. M1 era ROMplers had to cram samples into tiny memory spaces-- so they mostly have short attacks that immediately go to one-cycle loops. It would have been so great if Korg had updated the ROM samples, and then provided two "PCM Versions" "Legacy PCM" and "Modern PCM".
The Modern version could fix what is terrible in the M1 and borrow from later series. Folks could decide about how much of a footprint they want their app to occupy.
I suppose a dream version would just let you access soundfonts as pcm data.
There's just no pleasing some people.
On the other hand, the PCM sounds are a mixed bag, quality-wise. M1 era ROMplers had to cram samples into tiny memory spaces-- so they mostly have short attacks that immediately go to one-cycle loops. It would have been so great if Korg had updated the ROM samples, and then provided two "PCM Versions" "Legacy PCM" and "Modern PCM".
The Modern version could fix what is terrible in the M1 and borrow from later series. Folks could decide about how much of a footprint they want their app to occupy.
I suppose a dream version would just let you access soundfonts as pcm data.
There's just no pleasing some people.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
I haven't noticed any latency- or maybe I just have a high tolerance for it. I have the iPad Air version 1, which may not have as fast a processor as the latest iPads, but it seems to do the job for me. Some apps have a control for adjusting latency to fit the processor you have- older iPads my have to use settings with some latency.
And stubbsonic, that is a great idea having both a Legacy and Updated version of the iM1! Many things have changed since the original M1 was designed- it would be nice to take advantage of the amount of memory handheld devices currently have, as opposed to the few megs of memory the original ROMplers had available.
And stubbsonic, that is a great idea having both a Legacy and Updated version of the iM1! Many things have changed since the original M1 was designed- it would be nice to take advantage of the amount of memory handheld devices currently have, as opposed to the few megs of memory the original ROMplers had available.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
Someone needs to make a keyboard dock for the iPad, that plugs into your MIDI keyboard and sits atop it. Then, whatever instrument you happen to be running on the iPad will be connected to the physical music keyboard and audio devices.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
The recently discontinued Line 6 MobileKeys is halfway there. Its proprietary cable can plug directly into your iPad or iPhone and access any sounds within while taking bus power from the iOS device (it also can plug into USB). It does not have a stand, however.Shooshie wrote:Someone needs to make a keyboard dock for the iPad, that plugs into your MIDI keyboard and sits atop it. Then, whatever instrument you happen to be running on the iPad will be connected to the physical music keyboard and audio devices.
The 49 key version weighs about 3 pounds. There's a 25 key version, too.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
This could come in handy:
http://www.cme-pro.com/xkey-air/
Latency could be a problem, and as with all crowdfunded projects, it could be here today, gone tomorrow.
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Latency could be a problem, and as with all crowdfunded projects, it could be here today, gone tomorrow.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
It's 2 IAPs (not 10) to get all the expansions. Introductory pricing ends June 30. ($19.99 for app; $4.99 each for the IAPs -- basically $30 for the whole shebang). Pretty brilliant!
Would like to see Roland do something similar, JV and XV. So far all they've done is SoundCanvas.
Babz
Would like to see Roland do something similar, JV and XV. So far all they've done is SoundCanvas.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
I'm hoping for a K2XX.Babz wrote:Would like to see Roland do something similar, JV and XV. So far all they've done is SoundCanvas.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
You mean K2xxx?
I'd love to see even a partial version of a K2500 in an iPad app. I stop at K2500 and not a K2600 only because I think the "triple mod" processing seems like an unnecessary complication.
I even think they could simplify the VAST part quite a bit.
Mainly, what I'd like to see is a synth that lets you load and edit samples & keymaps, with both velocity and key ranges. Something that let's you set up tunings either from the keymap, or a scale editor. Something that allows you to map controllers to parameters with secondary controllers (to regulate range), and also dedicated range & curve settings.
Right now, Z3ta+ for iPad does a good job with the mod matrix-- but no samples/keymaps. There is a soundfont synth, bismark bs-16i, that lets you load soundfonts (wherein you can do some keymap stuff) but not much in the way of synthesis.
An iK2500-- but with snappier envelopes-- would make me throw away a bunch of other apps. If it kept the sequencer of the K2500, I'd throw away a bunch more.
I'd love to see even a partial version of a K2500 in an iPad app. I stop at K2500 and not a K2600 only because I think the "triple mod" processing seems like an unnecessary complication.
I even think they could simplify the VAST part quite a bit.
Mainly, what I'd like to see is a synth that lets you load and edit samples & keymaps, with both velocity and key ranges. Something that let's you set up tunings either from the keymap, or a scale editor. Something that allows you to map controllers to parameters with secondary controllers (to regulate range), and also dedicated range & curve settings.
Right now, Z3ta+ for iPad does a good job with the mod matrix-- but no samples/keymaps. There is a soundfont synth, bismark bs-16i, that lets you load soundfonts (wherein you can do some keymap stuff) but not much in the way of synthesis.
An iK2500-- but with snappier envelopes-- would make me throw away a bunch of other apps. If it kept the sequencer of the K2500, I'd throw away a bunch more.
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Re: Korg brings the M1 to the iPad
Yes, I meant K2XXX. I'd like it for the iPad and as a plugin. I've got l loads of K2K patches some of which I've converted with autosampler but it's not quite the same. E.g., the 12 osc sawtooth. I'd use it n place of mx4, Arturia or any of the logic synths. Not sure about simplifying the algorithms--I suspect t would be easier to leave the code as is-- but maybe the effects would generate less noise.
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