Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
What ever one sets out to prove they have a way of making it happen in their favor to prove what they want. I use both computer systems daily and I know what works best for me. No I am not a gamer don't even care to waste my time doing so. I would love to see a test running the same program rendering 3D animation, or even how many VI's one can run with plugins at the same time, on a real Mac Pro.
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Same here, I find Windows itself really annoying. But once you're in DP, you deal mainly with the DP interface, particularly if you use the CW. The OS doesn't really come in to it.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I have always found them a bit cumbersome and awkward to use and lacking the finesse and elegance of a Mac. Again, not to bash them, I just don't enjoy working on them or in the Windows OS.
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
It starts to come into it quickly for me as soon as I have to switch to another program or find the tools I need to complete the project.
Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Nice of Chad to join in.
I'm not currently in the market for a new machine but when I am I would love to see a parts list to build a PC and compare some specs.
But who knows by then DP may be running on Lunix
I'm not currently in the market for a new machine but when I am I would love to see a parts list to build a PC and compare some specs.
But who knows by then DP may be running on Lunix
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Now THAT would be verrry interesting!wylie1 wrote:But who knows by then DP may be running on Lunix
Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Thanks for the reply, Chad. I didn't realize you were a regular member of the forums. Please don't make yourself scarce if you have the time!
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
The really good news for windows users out of all of this is that DP on windows didn't disappoint a user who is obviously very critical and meticulous about his hardware and software choices.
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Well, I'm not surprised to see a DP Windows version finally come out and if it gets to be as solid as the Mac version, then who knows what could happen. To be fair about it, MOTU was hardly rewarded by being a loyal Mac-only developer for so long and keeping their flagship app only available on Macintosh. How did Apple reward Mac only developers? By acquiring their own DAW, Logic, and then dumping it cheaply on the market along with lots of included VIs. Seems like if MOTU was going to be competing against Apple they might as well make a Windows version of DP. Dunno. My original point is that Apple never really seemed to care about making life more difficult for their third party developers.
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Re: Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Well there are many variables. First off one reason for the acquiring of a DAW for OSX was to get a solid plug in format going. VST implementation in OS9 was abysmal, crashes etc. as PC VSTs were badly ported over. Buying a major DAW and getting it to use AU was part of the deal from everything that could be revealed by Emagic employees. Emagic who made Logic were excited about switching to AU and could be bought, it's very possible that the only reason MOTU wasn't bought is they didn't want to sell.James Steele wrote:Well, I'm not surprised to see a DP Windows version finally come out and if it gets to be as solid as the Mac version, then who knows what could happen. To be fair about it, MOTU was hardly rewarded by being a loyal Mac-only developer for so long and keeping their flagship app only available on Macintosh. How did Apple reward Mac only developers? By acquiring their own DAW, Logic, and then dumping it cheaply on the market along with lots of included VIs. Seems like if MOTU was going to be competing against Apple they might as well make a Windows version of DP. Dunno. My original point is that Apple never really seemed to care about making life more difficult for their third party developers.
So it's very possible that the reason for the acquiring of Logic was to push the development of Audio Units and therefore a more guaranteed safe plug in format. Plus a guaranteed DAW that will always be on OSX.
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Is DP8 faster on a PC than on a Mac?
Perhaps, but then did Apple stop to consider the ramifications of undercutting other major Mac DAWs on pricing? If the goal was to establish AU as the primary plug-in format, and that was accomplished, why then so drastically reduce the price of Logic? Over on the Windows side, MOTU isn't competing with a company that makes the OS and hardware offering a DAW for cheap because its subsidized by iPhone, iPad and iPod sales.
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