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The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby James Steele » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:22 pm

Of all the gripes one might have with MOTU, this issue is the one I understand least and irritates me most. I've heard rumor that Apple won't approve the updated app. Don't know if that's true. Seems like if Apple approved it initially, what is the problem?

DP Control was an ideal solution for remote control of DP. Why let it die? I can understand why Unisyn was allowed to whither away, but not DP Control. How long did it actually work? It was nice knowing it.
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby MIDI Life Crisis » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:11 pm

Bummer! It kind of sucks that one needs Apple's approval for such things. I know little to nothing (more of the latter) about programming and getting something to load on un un-jailbroken device, but it would be nice if MOTU and other developers would be able to get their apps on the iPhone w/o asking Big Brother for their stamp of approval.

I didn't use the control app much, but when I did I was thrilled by it's accuracy and responsiveness. I hope that gets rectified by Apple. I've seen other good apps go the same way, and in the case of a one off developer selling their app on the Apple site it one thing. Yeah, you're sort of on your own, but companies like MOTU sell products that sell Apple computers (or at least used to) and you'd think they would want to support those efforts. Then again, Apple also sells a competing product. Does Logic have a remote control app? If so, then possibly Apple is blocking MOTU to have that slight edge on the competition. And what about those other DAWs? Do THEY have remote apps for the iPhone/iPad?

If I cared about those others one iota I'd go check, but I'm a one-DAW man and if I have to do w/o a man remote app to use DP, so be it. Nothing else comes close. Not my opinion. That is a fact!
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby billf » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:32 pm

The last update of DP Control for iOS was Sep 24, 2010, version 1.02. That's an eternity in iOS years.
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby cuttime » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:47 pm

It is a bummer but I'll throw this out again:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daw-con ... 25383?mt=8

I think James had a problem with having the transport controls active with someone being asked to mix. I'll point out that the controls and labels are completely customizable. If anyone's interested, the details are here (some of my image links disappeared):

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=60593&hilit=daw+control&start=15
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby Robert Randolph » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:21 pm

While I know that you're not asking for alternatives, http://www.avid.com/products/pro-tools-control works with DP and offers more control than DP control.

It'd be great if Motu could get their act together on it though. A bunch of other DAWs have a cool control app that works :(
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby BKK-OZ » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:31 pm

I agree that it is pretty disappointing.
Raised this years ago with MOTU and I was unimpressed with their response.

I know that this isn't a thread looking for alternatives, but there is Touch Osc, and this that I posted in another thread:

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Just came across this app for controlling Macs via an iPad.
Dunno if it is good, bad, or otherwise.
Caveat emptor.
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby terrybritton » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:52 pm

BKK-OZ wrote:I agree that it is pretty disappointing.
Raised this years ago with MOTU and I was unimpressed with their response.

I know that this isn't a thread looking for alternatives, but there is Touch Osc, and this that I posted in another thread:

- - - - -
Just came across this app for controlling Macs via an iPad.
Dunno if it is good, bad, or otherwise.
Caveat emptor.
http://www.quadro.me
- - - - -


I wrote an article for the Cantabile crowd that details the controls from three of the basic layouts TouchOSC comes with out of the box. If interested, check it out here:
http://community.cantabilesoftware.com/t/use-cantabile-3-with-a-tablet-via-touchosc-and-touchosc-bridge/570

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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby Gravity Jim » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:44 am

So, MOTU has written an update but Apple won't approve it?

I score games for a lot of iOS developers, and know a few reasons why Apple would fail to approve (and all you have to do is change the offending code and resubmit). With this app, it's not going to be a content problem... it's more likely that there is code in the app that might allow exploration of the device.

The reason Apple won't put things on the iTunes store without reviewing them can easily be seen on the supposedly-superior-because-it's-"open" Android platform. Malware and spyware run rampant, incredibly offensive content gets posted, games and apps that only run on one version of the Android hardware are everywhere. It's a customer service nightmare.

I much prefer Apple doing their best to make sure that nobody is selling me buggy, pirated shovelware that exists to screw up my mobile devices.

Anyway, don't blame Apple. They tell you why it was rejected, and all you have to do is fix it. Which MOTU should be able to do easily.
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Re: The Abandonment of DP Control

Postby James Steele » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:54 pm

Gravity Jim wrote:So, MOTU has written an update but Apple won't approve it?


I do NOT know anything of the kind. I'd heard a vague rumor, but it doesn't seem very plausible to me.
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