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DP8 - strange movie display problem? not resolved in 8.01

Post by stephentayler »

Anyone seen anything like this?

On my (ageing) MacBook Pro running OSX 10.7.5 and DP8, all movies do not display properly - see below -

DP7, and Quicktime both display fine on this machine, and DP8 alsoworks fine on my Mac Pro.

Do you think it might be the lack of RAM? it is only 2GB - and the processor is 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

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I've tried lots of different files and codecs, all with the same result.

Not a huge problem, but it would be nice if I could find a solution.

Cheers

Stephen
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RAM is definitely a suspect.
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Stephen -

What year is your "aging" MacBook Pro? Mine is an Early 2008 (version 4,1). In reading the posts here since DP 8 was available, it seems that the program is video-RAM hungry; it seems to heavily rely on the graphics card more than DP 7. It's my understanding that the older MBPs have fairly limited RAM (video-RAM) for their graphics card. Also, as example, my "aging" MBP can only hold up to 6 GBs of regular RAM. In the world of audio recording/sequencing (especially when using 64-bit computing), 6 GBs of regular RAM seems to be small now-a-days. I'm wondering if those "aging" MBPs will be up to the task to handle DP 8 reliably. I did upgrade my MBPs RAM to 6 GBs as well as install a 240 GB SSD. When I upgrade to DP 8, I will install it and see if it works on my "aging" MBP.

But. . . I am chomping at the bit to upgrade to DP 8 and install it on my happy 2009 MacPro (specs as noted below). You mention that DP 8 works well on you MacPro. This is encouraging to me!! Curious. What video-card are you using?

I really enjoy using Digital Performer (currently DP 7) for video-scoring. It meets my very modest needs. I looking forward to DP 8 and using it in 64-bit mode. It seems that most if not all of my plug-ins will work with DP 8 in 64-bit mode. At this point, I'm waiting for the next update for DP 8 before I upgrade. Also, before I upgrade, I want to make sure that my vide-card to my MacPro is up to the task. Hopefully my MacPro's ATI Radeon HD 5770 will be adequate.

By the way, my "aging" MBP makes for a great slave computer to my MacPro, especially for the larger orchestral templets when using DP 7. :)

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My MBP is from early 2007.... I don't really need to run DP with a lot of tracks running, just curious to see if it might manage being a video slave, but that might be too much to ask.

Although I have very successfully been running Virtual VTR on it as a slave with HD video, just with built-in output through DVI to HDMI......

I see the maximum RAM I can put on the MBP is 3Gb, it would be good to know whether it might be worth the upgrade....

As for running on the Mac Pro, I haven't really stretched its legs yet, just been running a series of tests. Luckily I am between projects so I can experiment.

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Interesting, Stephen. Never thought about using my MBP as a video-slave.

Regarding your MacPro, what video card are you using??
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It's just the standard built in ATI Radeon HD 2600 - although I am seriously considering getting one of the MOTU boxes, I've always had good fortune with MOTU hardware/software combination......

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Steven, have you tried deleting the DP preferences on your MBP?

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I'm having problems running video with DP8 too. Running any video at all in DP8, not only makes DP8 dramatically slow, it makes ALL my MacPro's graphics unusably slow. Even running a small movie turns my entire system to sludge. I don't know if its a graphics-RAM issue or if there's compatibility issue with my NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT. Either way I hope MOTU optimizes the new video engine in a future update.
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Yes, I have repaired permissions, deleted prefs, re-installed.... still no joy. Perhaps I will try the whole cycle again.... funny though, before I did all that the first time, my videos were orange, but the picture intact. After doing all that, they now are predominantly green and the image is sort of fragmented. Wonder what it will look like next!!

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Have tried reinstalling QuickTime?
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No, actually, I'm a bit confused about Quicktime, as i have Quicktime 7 and Quicktime X on both my machines.... any idea where to get QT 7 to reinstall from??

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Apple?
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Well yes, of course, but I am having trouble actually finding the installer for 7.6.6

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I don't think you can reinstall Quicktime 10, can you? It's integrated into the OS, no? Here's the installer for 7.6.6 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL923?viewl ... cale=en_US , but I wouldn't think reinstalling 7 would help with general video issues. …but I'm REALLY out of my area of expertise on the subject. I'm basically guessing :?
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I only suggest this since the DP video engine still hooks into QT for playback. If a component it needs isn't there, you will have problems. Maybe some video wiz can explain in detail why I might be wrong.
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