Looking for Fazioli piano help

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ahoutriet
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Looking for Fazioli piano help

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Hi,

I have a problem with the (very nice!) Fazioli piano. Loading works fine, and I can play it but at a minutes or so it it 'freezes'. It sounds like all notes are hold like using a sustain pedal. When I continu playing all notes are 'eaten' (polyfony) until 0 are left. After that M53 freezes and crashes.

This doesn't happen with all the other instruments and sounds. The other works all fine without cracks and pops, so my memory and soundcard seems to work ok.

Any thought what I can do to improve the Fazioli piano perfomance?
Reloading/reinstalling didn't help.

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Anton
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Do you have Kontakt? It works great within that sampler. Sorry but that's all I got
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Is it possible there's a stuck Control 64 somewhere else in your DAW? Or perhaps it is somehow inverting your sustain pedal. Running up the polyphony of the piano to max is probably slamming your CPU.

Using a MIDI monitor (there's a free app of the same name) can help you track whether your sustain pedal is functioning correctly. I wonder if you rebooted everything (after removing your sustain pedal) if the problem would change.
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Re: Looking for Fazioli piano help

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Thanks for the replies.

I am sure there is no 'hidden' control 64 send. I tried different sustainpedals and even a different controller. So I think it's a dataflow in the computer that goes wrong. All other instruments and sounds works fine in M53.

Maybe it's because this instrument is 3GB large? It's one of the biggest ufs files for M53 on my drive. Could it be lack of memory? I have 4GB RAM in my computer. It's not much but it's the maximum my pc takes.

@Nibiru: I did't know Kontakt can load M53 files?

Still finding my way but I love M53 very much.

cheers,
Anton
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It sounds like you are getting close to some ideas for solutions.

The first big one is why the Fazoli misreads your sustain pedal. There might be a setting on the UI of the instrument itself that might be able to resolve that.

The next big one is that you have 4 GB RAM and are trying to run a big instrument. Look at Kontakts docs about ways to change the drive/streaming/RAM & other settings to make it run as efficiently as possible.

Could be you are demanding more than the hardware can take. However, that reversed sustain pedal seems to be a first one.

On the UI of the fazoli does it show a graphic of the sustain pedal status? If you press your pedal does it change?
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stubbsonic wrote: The next big one is that you have 4 GB RAM and are trying to run a big instrument.
Touchdown. Game over.

I just assume people have lots of RAM when they run intensive programs. This ain't GarageBand anymore. LOL...
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Better get a new computer then :?

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Or more RAM.
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stubbsonic wrote: Look at Kontakts docs about ways to change the drive/streaming/RAM & other settings to make it run as efficiently as possible.
I think the OP said he's using MachFive. The MachFive "Getting Started" manual recommends at least 8G RAM.
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