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Mail in Sierra??

Postby wdegillio » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:20 pm

I'm ready to make the move to 10.12, but I've heard that the Mail app in Sierra is quite buggy. Has anyone had any serious problems with it?
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby Guitar Gaz » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:28 pm

Seems to be the same - no issues as such.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby cuttime » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:56 pm

I might be one of the few people who have never had problems with Apple Mail. I continue to hear problems every now and then from folks who have Yahoo accounts, but I've never had one so it's not been an issue. Perhaps they can chime in here.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby mikehalloran » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:02 pm

wdegillio wrote:I'm ready to make the move to 10.12, but I've heard that the Mail app in Sierra is quite buggy. Has anyone had any serious problems with it?
Nope — other than Yahoo! Mail not working for a couple of days last month. Then it did again.
I continue to hear problems every now and then from folks who have Yahoo accounts,
Yahoo! mail works great except when it is terrible.

After every major OS update, you can pretty much count on it going down 4–8 weeks later—this time was no exception. Since I have a business account with them, I can call in for their worthless tech support. They always tell me a) there is no problem b) it must be Apple c) they don't know how to fix it. A few days later, it works again and then we get an email explaining how they were updating the servers—AGAIN!!!

I will find a new host before my February renewal.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby wdegillio » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:45 am

Thank you Guitar Gaz, cuttime, and Mike. I'm still using my old AOL mail account (not Yahoo). I'll make the move after I've made multiple backups.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby Gravity Jim » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:42 pm

Populating the web is a small group of anti-Apple acolytes who swoop in to bitch - either legitimately or not - about every gosh darn thing the company does.

Mail works fine in 10.12, as it has in every version of Mac OSX.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby mikehalloran » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:32 pm

Gravity Jim wrote:Populating the web is a small group of anti-Apple acolytes who swoop in to bitch - either legitimately or not - about every gosh darn thing the company does.

Mail works fine in 10.12, as it has in every version of Mac OSX.

Absolutely.

The problems with Yahoo! (when they occur) are temporary and caused by Yahoo!, not Apple. That I am looking to switch is a reflection of hideous support from Aabaco, the new name for Yahoo! Bizmail.

There were issues with Gmail in the first two builds of Mavericks but Apple and Google got it working fairly quickly. Even then, Gmail was always available through a browser.
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Re: Mail in Sierra??

Postby bayswater » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:57 pm

I haven't noticed any new bugs. But there are some changes that are mildly annoying. One is the way it tags junk. With earlier versions, if a message was marked as junk, the mark stayed with it, so you could use the flag to find it in wherever it sat. Now the junk tag disappears when a message is moved out of the junk folder. And somewhere along the line, using Command-Delete to delete a message without it going first into the trash folder stopped working.

The combination of the two makes the trash folder less useful as a place to find a mistakenly deleted message. It will be there somewhere buried among a zillion junk messages that are no longer tagged and cannot be isolated. Searching in general has been odd for some time. I can search for a message that is in plain sight, and Mail can't find it.

Another odd "feature". When you do a search, change the folder in focus, then end the search, the folder focus switches back to the folder that was in front when the search terms were first entered. That can cause some confusion. The message you thought you'd found has now disappeared.

You'll find a lot of things moved around in the menus and preferences. Not for any obvious reason -- Apple just seems to like moving things around. Maybe it's consultants.
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