Get Rid of the Dock -- Almost.

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Get Rid of the Dock -- Almost.

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With the launcher screens and spotlight, I rarely use the dock. And the dock is annoying when running DP because it keeps appearing when the mouse gets near the screen edge.

AFAIK you still can't kill the dock altogether, but this set of terminal commands help. One removes everything from the dock except what is running at the moment. The other can increase the time it takes for a hidden dock to pop up. Between these two changes, hitting active areas of the dock become less likely, and if you do, there is less interference with you're actions.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/customise- ... -commands/
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I use the Dock but can understand why others find it annoying.

When using DP, anchoring the Dock to the left instead of the bottom keeps it out of the way for me.

Cool set of Terminal commands. Thanks for the link.
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mikehalloran wrote:When using DP, anchoring the Dock to the left instead of the bottom keeps it out of the way for me.
I have the Track Selector there. It seems no matter where I put the dock, it gets in the way.
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I use the key command for showing the Dock. If I don't, the auto show drives me nuts.


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frankf wrote:I use the key command for showing the Dock. If I don't, the auto show drives me nuts.

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In the settings I can see, hiding it and having it appear when you hover over it are part of the same preference. Are you able to have it stay hidden and inactive until you press a key command? How do you do that?
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defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 10; killall Dock
Sets the delay for the dock to pop-up to 10 seconds. You can set it to 10000 seconds and that makes it basically gone. It requires that you have the hidden option turned on.

This is what I do and it works quite well.
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bayswater wrote:With the launcher screens and spotlight, I rarely use the dock. And the dock is annoying when running DP because it keeps appearing when the mouse gets near the screen edge.

AFAIK you still can't kill the dock altogether, but this set of terminal commands help. One removes everything from the dock except what is running at the moment. The other can increase the time it takes for a hidden dock to pop up. Between these two changes, hitting active areas of the dock become less likely, and if you do, there is less interference with you're actions.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/customise- ... -commands/
I'm with you on that one - thanks for the suggestions which I will try.
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Re: Get Rid of the Dock -- Almost.

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Robert Randolph wrote:

Code: Select all

defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 10; killall Dock
Sets the delay for the dock to pop-up to 10 seconds. You can set it to 10000 seconds and that makes it basically gone. It requires that you have the hidden option turned on.

This is what I do and it works quite well.
Agreed - just what I was looking for - thanks for these tips!
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Robert Randolph wrote:

Code: Select all

defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 10; killall Dock
Sets the delay for the dock to pop-up to 10 seconds. You can set it to 10000 seconds and that makes it basically gone. It requires that you have the hidden option turned on.

This is what I do and it works quite well.
Yes, that's one of the commands in the article whose link I posted. I set it to 10 which seemed good enough.
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bayswater wrote:
frankf wrote:I use the key command for showing the Dock. If I don't, the auto show drives me nuts.

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In the settings I can see, hiding it and having it appear when you hover over it are part of the same preference. Are you able to have it stay hidden and inactive until you press a key command? How do you do that?
Uncheck "automatically hide and show the Dock" in Dock preferences, then use the key command. I think the default is opt-car-d but don't hold me to that.
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Re: Get Rid of the Dock -- Almost.

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frankf wrote:
bayswater wrote:
frankf wrote:I use the key command for showing the Dock. If I don't, the auto show drives me nuts.

Frank Ferrucci
In the settings I can see, hiding it and having it appear when you hover over it are part of the same preference. Are you able to have it stay hidden and inactive until you press a key command? How do you do that?
Uncheck "automatically hide and show the Dock" in Dock preferences, then use the key command. I think the default is opt-car-d but don't hold me to that.
Yes, the key command (option-command-D) makes the Dock appear and disappear when the automatic setting is disabled. But if you use the command to make it disappear, hovering over the Dock's position it pops up again. So it doesn't address the having the Dock pop up when moving the mouse near it when using DP.
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Spell check got me again. Car is a nothing key, obviously. Once I disable Auto show Dock , hovering doe not pop the Dock up here. I must use the key command


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Re: Get Rid of the Dock -- Almost.

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frankf wrote:Spell check got me again. Car is a nothing key, obviously. Once I disable Auto show Dock , hovering doe not pop the Dock up here. I must use the key command


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Interesting. It does pop up on my Mac. Might be a OS X version thing.
(BTW, what's a nothing key?) :lol:
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A key that doesn't exist and does nothing. I just made that up because spell check changed cmd to car
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