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Re: Xeon X5680s Now Under $200

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HCMarkus wrote:Redundancy expressed with grace can be a blessing Nick... its sorta' like backing up your files on another drive. Have a great day!
Oh man, Sir Markus, you've made my day yet again... Sir Markus, man. :lol:

Seriously though, you did, even if saying it is redundant. Thank you!

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Michael Canavan wrote: Apparently the big setback is that the Xeons have soldered on lids, some german guy posted this video! :shock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdPuneT30_o
MIchael, how did you remove the excess solder? Someone over at MacRumors wants to know.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread. ... 888&page=2

I'd like to know, too. Thanks!
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Whatever the German guy is doing, that's the 2nd part of the video, you may want to watch the 1st part too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eItYq6nxfJ4
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HCMarkus wrote:
Michael Canavan wrote: Apparently the big setback is that the Xeons have soldered on lids, some german guy posted this video! :shock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdPuneT30_o
MIchael, how did you remove the excess solder? Someone over at MacRumors wants to know.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread. ... 888&page=2

I'd like to know, too. Thanks!
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Gracias Amigo.
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Sir Markus, if I may...

Need I be concerned about this stuff? I thought that when I took my machine in the fella at the Apple store was simply going to swap the heat sinks and apply the Arctic Silver I bought. That's fine, right? If not, why'm I bothering with the Arctic Silver if there's an unnecessary lid in place trapping a whole lotta heat?

Still waiting for the chips BTW. Had to go through a friend of my cousin's in New Mexico (gave him U$100 for his trouble) 'cause the store wouldn't post direct, even 'though its blurb said it does so...

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monkey man wrote:Need I be concerned about this stuff?
Simply put: No.

You have a 5,1. It uses normal CPUs. No de-lidding required. The "lid" is the IHS or Integrated Heat Spreader. It does not trap heat and is part of the CPU and Mac Pro design. If you remove it, the CPU will not make contact with your MP heatsink and you will have a massive fail on your hands.

Only owners of 4,1 (2009) Dual CPU MPs need be concerned with this.
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Thank you, Sir Markus!

Woohoo! :woohoo:

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Well,I'm happy to announce HC is a daddy once again!!
Theres a new 6 core in the house! :woohoo: :dance: :woohoo:

Thanks for all of the encouragement,a friend of mine came over and helped me with it and the MP is working well.

Also a big thanks to Gravity Jim, the hex key worked like charm :wink:

The processor was advertised as new but there was a small (tiny) amount of thermal paste on the chip,so I don't know if it was tested & is actually new or pulled from a server.In either case it works, it was cheap and it looks like this Mac Pro will be a nice upgrade from my '08 2.8 Quad.

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I've been hoping to hear from you KG… had almost given up hope, but am pleased that congratulations are now in order!

I know you're gonna' love your "new" Mac Pro! :dance:
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Well done KG! That's great man.

Update:
I heard from my cousin yesterday, and guess what? That doofbag in New Mexico hasn't even mailed the chips yet.

There goes my 28-day warranty, and possibly the chips themselves. Everything's paid for.

Fingers and... well, foot fingers crossed anyway...

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Oh my! Good luck MM.
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Just wanted to say this is a fantastic thread to which I have directed at least a half a dozen folks. Thanks all.

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I too, nk_e. Heck, I even sent the Apple store guy here to verify what I'd told him; he was reluctant to do the mod for me, having not heard of it before.
HCMarkus wrote:Oh my! Good luck MM.
Thank you, Sir Markus. Here's hoping' he can muster up the courage and energy to take a trip to his local post office. :roll:

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Yeehaa!! Done.

The Apple store was reticent and busy so I took it upon myself to do it. Had to go shopping for an allen key long enough to reach the fixing screws for the heat-sink assembly, but that was the only "hitch".

Question:
My cousin applied the Arctic Silver paste to one of the processors whilst I cleaned the first one I removed, and he used much less paste than I did on the second CPU. I squeezed a sine-wave shaped line across the top and smeared it, reaching 3mm from the edges. He, on the other hand, made a circular shape that was much thinner than mine as well as being 10mm or so from the nearest edges. He said it shouldn't matter, but I'd still like to ask, "Does it?".

I was relieved that software registrations seem to be tied to the motherboard or something other than the CPUs; I was concerned that I'd have to re-register DP and my free Slate, Eventide and Sound Toys plug-ins.

All seems well. The fan/s seem/s to be spinning a little quicker, but I s'pose that's to be expected. Haven't noticed any difference in performance yet as I won't be firing DP up to work for some time. Omnisphere is on the cards 'though, and if my testing confirms that I'll have enough grunt there to further reduce my outboard load prior to upgrading to MOTU's AVB line (once I confirm that multiple-unit networks are stable over USB2), at least I can be confident that this upgrade should cover me for (hopefully) many years to come. Mainly 'cause of electricity-supply price increases, I'm finally starting to take more seriously the option of reducing the MIDI-hardware component of my setup.

The purchase last year of the entry-level 2012 Mac went to plan as I intended all along to upgrade the CPUs once the Xeon price had dropped. For once, as John "Hannibal" Smith might have said, I love it when a plan comes together.

Sir Markus, I owe you a case of beer for your support, encouragement and tutifilage through this poocess.

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