Yosemite, OSX 10.10 and your Mac

[billf]

Because you're going to want to know, here's what will run OSX 10.10 (according to ARS Technica):

• iMac (Mid-2007 or later)
  MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, Late 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
  MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later), (15-inch, Mid/Late 2007 or later), (17-inch, Late 2007 or later)
  MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
  Mac Mini (Early 2009 or later)
  Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
  Xserve (Early 2009)

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I'm waiting for Yellowstoned.

[adriano]

I'm waiting for Yellowstoned.

[billf]

I'm waiting for Yellowstoned.

OSX 10.11 will be called Vegemite.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Can't wait for OS 11.11 Spam

[mhschmieder]

I'm actually a bit surprised that they're supporting equipment that old, but probably it's because they've gone to a yearly update cycle. And in that context, it would seem that supporting the three or four most current OS versions would make sense for most vendors, except for that theory gave Mavericks away for free to guarantee most people would dump Mountain Lion.

[billf]

I'm actually a bit surprised that they're supporting equipment that old, but probably it's because they've gone to a yearly update cycle. And in that context, it would seem that supporting the three or four most current OS versions would make sense for most vendors, except for that theory gave Mavericks away for free to guarantee most people would dump Mountain Lion.

Is Mavericks stable yet?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

It is here.

[mikehalloran]

Is Mavericks stable yet?

Extremely.

All of the complaints I see including my track-pad issues were ones that I dealt with in 10.8.2. They were resolved by deleting out-dated apps, including some that didn't work in 10.6 either but didn't crash my Mac till ML.2. I got really good at reading crash reports and Console in the process of making 10.8.2 stable.

[Tobor]

Mavericks has also been stable here.

[bayswater]

What worries me is the wide range of experiences with Mavericks. It was not particularly stable on my MBP until the most recent update. It's fine now.

Putting that together with a comment made by an Apple Tech at the main store in Vancouver last week -- he said "right now at Apple, software is chasing hardware" and so we should be careful about updating software on older equipment.

[Gravity Jim]

No Genius at any Apple Store knows two figs about what's going on at One Infinite Loop. That's just another under-informed opinion from a technophile outsider who could just as easily be wearing a Geek Squad shirt. Would you believe him if he worked at Best Buy?

Mavericks is stable, has been on my system since the first build. But as I am fond of pointing out, I run a very clean system with virtually no third party yak.

[mikehalloran]

No Genius at any Apple Store knows two figs about what's going on at One Infinite Loop. That's just another under-informed opinion from a technophile outsider who could just as easily be wearing a Geek Squad shirt. Would you believe him if he worked at Best Buy?

Living exactly 2 miles from the above address and having a son-in-law in engineering there, I can testify to that.

Frankly, half the techs in AppleCare fall into the same category. The other half seem to be really knowledgable. Eventually, all my issues were resolved. OS 10.7 - 10.8.1 had major issues. 10.8.2 on has been rock solid.

The trackpad issues that a few have with 10.9 are the exact ones I had with 10.8.2. Removing certain third party .kext files fixed the Magic Trackpad and the frequent crashing that I had.

Many apps were no longer compatible, true. Gmail being the most notorious with the first release of Mavericks but Apple and Google both made changes to fix it.

The one issue that Apple will not fix is the firmware bug in certain ATi video cards found in Mac Pro and iMac. Again, this became an issue in 10.8 but continues in 10.9. TechTool Pro, since v.7.2 no longer has an issue with this. MOTU Audio Setup.app also has (or had) this issue - the workaround is easy: turn it off when your hardware is set up. Other companies have worked around this as well.

I still see messages on the support boards that declare Mavericks to be crap, what is Bresink or Terminus anyway? Well the Bresink Temperature Monitor is a little piece of shitfreeware that has been crashing the OS since 10.8.2. It always shows up on the crash reports as does Terminus.kext which installs the first time you click on Spin Doctor X, bundled with Toast (it hasn't worked since 10.6.) Both are difficult to remove unless you know how. Other old crap does the same.

Mavericks is rock solid. Not everything is compatible.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

But they went to school to raise their IQ! I agree. I go to the Genius Bar and end up tell them more than they know and even where to find stuff on the shelves that they say they don't carry. Pathetic. Their main purpose is to make the uninformed feel secure with their device and, at best, replace stuff under Applecare. They're just a gateway, not a stairway to Mac nirvana.

[bayswater]

Mavericks is rock solid. Not everything is compatible.

?? Sounds like something that would have come out of Redmond 10 years ago.