Gravity Jim wrote:I just don't get it. The Raven for DP is actually ADDING keystrokes and mouse clicks for me. It's not anything like a console, which I ditched in favor of the Raven (when I foolishly expected it to work). The Raven actually gets in the way of my workflow.
How is it mixing when you have to leave the mixer, pick up a mouse and click on something in the DP mixer in order to adjust an EQ setting? Or select a channel in DP for the INS button to work correctly? How is touching a plug-in even as good as simply adjusting the plug in with a mouse or typed-in values?
Here's how... Last night I was working at my friends studio. Many famous albums on the wall, grammy's, big name clientele. I was working on a API 40 channel vintage and killer console. At about 6 feet wide and 40 inches deep. I had to stretch and stand to reach the beautiful api 550 eq's. I had to roll to the equipment racks to use the Neve side car and vintage LA2A's, hardware verbs, harmonizers, delays etc. I am grateful to have an occasional "back to the future" experience.
I am also grateful to get back to The Raven which does 48 channels in 27 inches (not 6 feet) with one button push. I reach 10 inches with my index finger to open any effect insert from the DP customized mixer. The plug pops up in front of me and I make adjustments with my index finger with my elbow still resting on the front of the table. I never touch the mouse in that scenario. The faders feel as good actually even better then the vintage API console from last night.
Gravity Jim wrote:If you think the emperor is reasonably well-dressed, well, great. But from my seat, he looks purt-near nekkid. Mine is shipping to some guy in Florida in a couple hours. I hope it works better for him than it did for me. By simply moving my "floating mixer" over to an unused iPad, I'm freeing up a grand, too.
The "nekkid emperors" ahhh.... I'm not gonna touch. Control rooms are kinky enough man. As for the iPad mixing I found that even more ergonomically challenged, it's cheap and you get what you paid for like a cheap "Hollywood Hooker" not that I would know
I am pretty sure you will ditch the iPad mixing soon without an STD. It's easier to adjust the DP mixer by mouse and your eyes never leave the work environment. But for $5.99 how could you not splurge.
Gravity Jim wrote:Maybe the difference is that I never record a band, or use 8 mics on a drummer. I primarily record myself, one track at a time, and I kind of mix as I arrange as I compose. I'm really glad I got rid of my Tascam DM3200, ....
That is EXACTLY the DIFFERENCE brotherman Jim. I use an Apollo 16 and an additional Focusrite i/o over ADAT when needed. The front end is 32 channels on 4 Focusrite ISA 828's. I need that set up as much as my simple VI's and recording one track at a time.
If I were doing a composition in a bedroom studio level production environment I would be in your camp. iPad, mouse, iPhone etc. way less stress
Just be glad you are not managing a traditional Vintage studio with a million dollar room, vintage gear that needs regular tech person. I've had a few of those...
Gravity Jim wrote: really love the improved audio from my MOTU 896mk3.
While your ditching gear get an Apollo Twin and you'll love the "improved audio" even more!
Gravity Jim wrote:So I'm kind of grateful to Slate for breaking me out of my rut. If they had just shipped a working version, I'd probably still think I needed one.... but as it turns out, what I've learned from this experience is that I don't need a console at all.
BRAVO! in finding the silver lining. Ok dude carry on. You came out clean on this one and found a better space in the process.
Enjoy the journey... and please be cool on the Raven bashing as a courtesy as I need a lot of DP/Raven users to get some improvements done by Slate.