small control surface for DP8

[waxman]

Raven baby!

[Rick Cornish]

I think the problem is that the control surface bundle which is specific to DP, needs to be updated. That was the issue with the AlphaTrack, which was solved when another board member and I tracked down the programmer and convinced him to update it. He sells it here:

http://www.synclavier.com/AlphaTrackPlugin.html

You can also get it to work in El Capitan, as I am doing already. More info here:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=60778

James, I've been looking for something like this for awhile: one fader—simple. Are you happy with this? The fader would have the most value to me, as I'm comfortable with transport control from my numeric keypad.

Does anyone still sell these? I couldn't find any links from their site that listed the product.

[toodamnhip]

I think the problem is that the control surface bundle which is specific to DP, needs to be updated. That was the issue with the AlphaTrack, which was solved when another board member and I tracked down the programmer and convinced him to update it. He sells it here:

http://www.synclavier.com/AlphaTrackPlugin.html

You can also get it to work in El Capitan, as I am doing already. More info here:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=60778

James, I've been looking for something like this for awhile: one fader—simple. Are you happy with this? The fader would have the most value to me, as I'm comfortable with transport control from my numeric keypad.

Does anyone still sell these? I couldn't find any links from their site that listed the product.

James runs Alpha and some guy updated the drivers so perhaps it works better, but I use PreSonus Fader port. It’s a pain in the butt as you have too manually direct it to tracks. And it loses “track” and needs to be re directed. But it is workable. The best I had was Artist mix but the power supply died.

[James Steele]

I think the problem is that the control surface bundle which is specific to DP, needs to be updated. That was the issue with the AlphaTrack, which was solved when another board member and I tracked down the programmer and convinced him to update it. He sells it here:

http://www.synclavier.com/AlphaTrackPlugin.html

You can also get it to work in El Capitan, as I am doing already. More info here:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=60778

James, I've been looking for something like this for awhile: one fader—simple. Are you happy with this? The fader would have the most value to me, as I'm comfortable with transport control from my numeric keypad.

Does anyone still sell these? I couldn't find any links from their site that listed the product.

They've been discontinued. eBay is your best bet and they're not going cheap from what I can tell. The display on mine was getting dim so I lucked out and got one for about $65, but they're often going for $100 or more and the condition varies. I like mine. I just use the fader primarily.

[Rick Cornish]

James runs Alpha and some guy updated the drivers so perhaps it works better, but I use PreSonus Fader port. It’s a pain in the butt as you have too manually direct it to tracks. And it loses “track” and needs to be re directed. But it is workable. The best I had was Artist mix but the power supply died.

Hetly toodamn....
So the Faderport actually works with DP9?
What do you mean when you say "you have to manually direct it to tracks"?

[Gravity Jim]

I ended up returning my Korg NanoKontrol Studio: I thought that I could deal with non motorized faders, but it turned out to be just to great a hassle.

I still wouldn't need them if someone made a device that was all rotary encoders that just rolled on-screen faders up and down relative to their current position. Resetting an entire mix - or worse yet, banks of 8 faders within a mix - so that the physical fader and the on-screen fader are in the same spot? Well, it was something I had to experience to really hate.

Traded it in on an optical compressor stomp box, and started using an iPad I had laying around with a app called DAW Control that I really like. If you've got an iPad there are some nice control surface solutions.

[bayswater]

I still wouldn't need them if someone made a device that was all rotary encoders that just rolled on-screen faders up and down relative to their current position.

Like the BCR2000. A bunch of continuous rotary knobs. Same case as the BCF2000, but without faders. These are cheap and appear to last forever.

[mikehalloran]

The thing I really liked about my JL Cooper CS-32 was that the 32 faders didn't change your mix until the position matched the location of the fader in the mixer window when you had the red indicator lit. So not being motorized wasn't an issue. It was a little smaller than an iPad so that was great.

No longer supported after OS 10.4, I was able to kludge it as far as 10.6. I can tell that my iMac sees it but cannot get it to work with DP. Ok, it still works on my G4 in DP 5.13 but I'm not doing that anymore.

Mine is the USB version. I've wondered if the MIDI version could be made to work but I haven't seen one for sale in years.

[Gravity Jim]

The thing I really liked about my JL Cooper CS-32 was that the 32 faders didn't change your mix until the position matched the location of the fader in the mixer window when you had the red indicator lit. So not being motorized wasn't an issue. It was a little smaller than an iPad so that was great.

I expected the Korg to work that way, and it would have great. But the Korg changes the mix the instant you touch a fader: the on-screen DP fader jumps to the position of the Korg fader when you move it, so it suddenly gets crazy loud or returns to zero. I had to memorize each faders value before touching the Korg and return the fader to its original position. Same problem when you'd scroll to the next bank of 8. Maddening. Unusable, sadly, because I loved the design.

The BCR2000 would be cool, but I really wanted something smaller. I might have to try one of those JL Cooper things. The Avid Artist Control would be great if it wasn't insanely overpriced. So, for right now, the DAW Control app is working great on an iPad Mini.

[toodamnhip]

James runs Alpha and some guy updated the drivers so perhaps it works better, but I use PreSonus Fader port. It’s a pain in the butt as you have too manually direct it to tracks. And it loses “track” and needs to be re directed. But it is workable. The best I had was Artist mix but the power supply died.

Hetly toodamn....
So the Faderport actually works with DP9?
What do you mean when you say "you have to manually direct it to tracks"?

I mean various things by this.
It does not “chase” well in DP.
So if you have a long list of tracks, (who doesn’t?), you cannot just click on a track and have the fader control it.

You have to use the fader ports bank and channel buttons to have it scroll through the tracks.
Bank first to “get close”, then the arrows to move one channel at a time. Once you are on your channel and in a DP folder, (Fader port seems confused by folders and thus needs to use it’s bank buttons), but once IN a folder, you can sometimes CLICK a track in the TO or SE window and fader point will go there.
Once there, it is easy for fader port to get lost again so you often end up having to click a track in the TO to make sure it is ready to work. To double check this, I often move the fader in DP to make sure fader port is chasing. Obviously, a pain. But it works and is my short term “go-back-to” until I either fix my Artist mix of get the Slate control surface. I just put in a price request to my pro audio guy for the slate. Not sure I like the idea of touching glass for fader moves. I’ll probably get used to it but it seems strange to me.

[Rick Cornish]

Thanks, toodamn.

I really like the look and layout of the Faderport, but I think I'm going to pursue the AlphaTrack for now.

Many thanks for the info.

[waxman]

I liked V-Control 2 https://neyrinck.com/products/v-control-pro2/

There is a free demo...

[bayswater]

I liked V-Control 2

They seem to be pretty deep into these things.

This is from the same site. Your watch controls your Raven.

[Henry Robinett]

So . . . I have and liked the old V-Pro 1. This means I have to pay the $50 for a brand new version? No upgrade path?


All the best,
www.henryrobinett.com
Check out my latest CD on iTunes.
I Have Known Mountains by Henry Robinett
https://itun.es/us/pi6C_

[billf]

So . . . I have and liked the old V-Pro 1. This means I have to pay the $50 for a brand new version? No upgrade path?


All the best,
http://www.henryrobinett.com
Check out my latest CD on iTunes.
I Have Known Mountains by Henry Robinett
https://itun.es/us/pi6C_

It is a subscription of $50 per year. There is also the app on the Apple Store for $99.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/v-contr ... 23823?mt=8





I no longer use V-Control, and am using PT Control from the Apple Store, which is free and works with DP 9 and Logic Pro X.