16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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I changed the Kontakt setting. Now the Ram used is still low about 4.6 Gb and the other 24 GB are free.
Should I return the memory purchased? Or there is a workaround? The only reason I purchased the memory was for DP
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Also, Plogue Bidule is 32 bit. Should I update to a 64 version as well?
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Gate 13 wrote:I changed the Kontakt setting. Now the Ram used is still low about 4.6 Gb and the other 24 GB are free.
Should I return the memory purchased? Or there is a workaround? The only reason I purchased the memory was for DP
Does this improve performance? Otherwise, the only other alternative is to upgrade to DP9. I don't use Bidule, so I can't speak to that. The extra RAM is a good thing for any other applications you have that might be 64 bit. To return or not is your choice.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Upgrading to DP9 will solve my problem?
Can you explain why?
Thank you for all the time you have spent but I feel a little lost. I am not sure if I understand the reason behind not be able to take advantage of the extra memory because of the 32 bit.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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I went to motu.com and I was happy to see that I can download DP9 for dree for 30 days. I will see what difference if any it makes.thank you again!
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Gate 13 wrote:Upgrading to DP9 will solve my problem?
Can you explain why?
DP9 is a 64 bit application and plugin host. In short, 32 bit computer processors can only address 4 GB of RAM. 64 bit processors can address much more:

https://www.pcmag.com/article/350934/32 ... difference

The applications running need to be compatible with the 64 bit architecture in able to access the available RAM. DP8 was the first to be 32 & 64 bit compatible. DP9 is fully 64 bit, but is not supported for OSX 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard). At this point, in order to utilize your installed RAM, you need a number of upgrades to proceed. Now, my expertise fails me, and I await other esteemed members of this forum to assist you further.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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In motu website it says that DP 9 is compatible with 10.6.8 or later
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Gate 13 wrote:In motu website it says that DP 9 is compatible with 10.6.8 or later
Good news! Go for it!
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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According to your last post, even if DP9 can run in 10.6.8 it will still make no difference since my mac pro is 32 bit. Am i right? If yes, why should I upgrade then to DP 9?
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Gate 13 wrote:According to your last post, even if DP9 can run in 10.6.8 it will still make no difference since my mac pro is 32 bit. Am i right? If yes, why should I upgrade then to DP 9?
No, OSX 10.6.8 was the first Mac OS to be 64 bit compatible. Your OS and computer are compatible in theory, but that doesn't mean that DP9 is compatible with 10.6.8. Give it a try and let us know what happens.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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The minimum OS requirement for DP 9.51 is 10.6.8.

The minimum recommended OS is 10.11 or later. It runs more efficiently with lower buffer settings in El Cap or later.

DP 9 is 64 bit only. Will Kontakt 4 show up? Being 32 & 64 bit, it should. If you see it in DP 9.51, you're fine. If not, ask and someone should know how to call it up (with 5.6, Kontakt for Mac became 64 bit only. I never had 4.x).

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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Thank you all.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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well the link from motu.com to download DP9 for mac does not work.
wow.....
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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Gate 13 wrote:well the link from motu.com to download DP9 for mac does not work.
wow.....
Works fine here.
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Re: 16GB extra memory-no improvement at all (DP7)

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it says it cannot establish a secure connection with the server from motu
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