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capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby EMRR » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:06 am

So far I'm not finding a method for this one in the manual.

I have a 'song' which is a theater production playlist of various sequences containing audio soundbite mixes. As a song made up sequences/chunks, I'd like to print a mix of the entire thing within DP so there's a master audio file of playback elements to import into a video editor along with captured ambience and voice tracks from the production, but don't see an obvious way to do this. Can't apparently create a capture sequence within a song? Is this a Polar job? Drop all the existing sequence mixes in a new sequence, use adjusted timecode start points from song to auto align? I see several paths, but am pretty sure I'm missing the most automatic choice. What do you film/TV/theater guys do? I'm usually just a straight pop music slob.
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Re: capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby EMRR » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:35 am

Another Song observation, in this case, possibly a bug. Maybe there's a reason. Theater playback turned out to be mono ceiling speakers. I enabled mono fold down on the master track in each sequence, and it plays as such when in the sequence. When in the Song chunk, they still play as stereo. I ended up having to manually recenter all pans in each sequence, sizable manual labor.
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Re: capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby stubbsonic » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:51 am

I have no experience with this, but could you put a parallel chunk in the Song editor graphic window that runs along the whole length of the song- and add an input track there that runs through the entire thing?
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Re: capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby EMRR » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:11 am

hmm, that's not a bad thought, if allowed.
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Re: capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby mikehalloran » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:12 am

Not understanding why you wouldn't use BTD to create your mono files. Export them to a separate folder and reload into a new project that just contains your cues.
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Re: capture 'song' as soundbite?

Postby EMRR » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:22 am

Because this was a fast moving 'workshop' presentation, and I was actively mixing for the room through rehearsals. There were several sets of varying information to playback, depending on specifics of the moment, and there were some cold-start vocal cues that had to come from playback, with performers jumping in slightly later, version without vocal to playback, version with vocal to playback, constant adjustments right up to public performance.

But outside of that, why would that mono fold down not work in this mode? Seems it should.

mikehalloran wrote:Not understanding why you wouldn't use BTD to create your mono files. Export them to a separate folder and reload into a new project that just contains your cues.
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