Hello,
I get that guys BUT: My point is, if trim is doing a perfect sum to zero in my test then it cannot be responsible for the differences you are seeing. In the OP's test from different software companies there are so many variables that I'm not sure I would expect them to behave exactly the same.
Configure a Send for Sum to Mono
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Re: Configure a Send for Sum to Mono
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Re: Configure a Send for Sum to Mono
What would those variables be?Don T wrote:Hello,
I get that guys BUT: My point is, if trim is doing a perfect sum to zero in my test then it cannot be responsible for the differences you are seeing. In the OP's test from different software companies there are so many variables that I'm not sure I would expect them to behave exactly the same.
Summing should follow an established formula, and any software company's summing plugin should sound the same as any other as long as they're set to do the same> sum without any bells and whistles.
The fact that ALL 3rd party plugins cancel between each other supports that fact. I just don't know if DP sums in a different way than the others. It should NOT be the case, so that's why I asked about this whole issue.
The question remains open...
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Re: Configure a Send for Sum to Mono
"I just don't know if DP sums in a different way than the others. It should NOT be the case, so that's why I asked about this whole issue."
hmmm... it scares me
hmmm... it scares me
Re: Configure a Send for Sum to Mono
Variables:FMiguelez wrote:What would those variables be?Don T wrote:Hello,
I get that guys BUT: My point is, if trim is doing a perfect sum to zero in my test then it cannot be responsible for the differences you are seeing. In the OP's test from different software companies there are so many variables that I'm not sure I would expect them to behave exactly the same.
Summing should follow an established formula, and any software company's summing plugin should sound the same as any other as long as they're set to do the same> sum without any bells and whistles.
The fact that ALL 3rd party plugins cancel between each other supports that fact. I just don't know if DP sums in a different way than the others. It should NOT be the case, so that's why I asked about this whole issue.
The question remains open...
1, Modeling software (vintage), Some plugins use OSX system processes some write their own, would make results system / OS specific. Process used to invert for the null sum before and after. System anomalies may differ, version of every process used, preference file corruption etc.
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MacPro 2.66 gHz 12 core (dp 10.01) - Lynx Aurora16 - OS 10.12.6/WaveArts/TruePianos - Legend 32ch console - G16 Fostex
(2) MacPro 2.66 gHz 12 core (DP 9.5) OS 10.12 - 24 I/O - 2408 mk2 - Da7- (PT 12) - 8 trk MCI
MacPro 2.66 gHz 12 core - OSX 10.12 - Genesys Black - Lynx Aurora16 - waves - Oxford - McDSP - 16 trk Otari - analog sweetness