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Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:01 pm
by James Steele
I just uploaded the latest Sierra 10.12.6 installer. It's at the same link as earlier in this thread, just the newer installer. No subsequent combo updater is needed. The zip archive is 5.02GB. Here's the link again:

http://motunation.com/files/Install_mac ... ra.app.zip

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:59 pm
by mikehalloran
James Steele wrote:I just uploaded the latest Sierra 10.12.6 installer. It's at the same link as earlier in this thread, just the newer installer. No subsequent combo updater is needed. The zip archive is 5.02GB. Here's the link again:

http://motunation.com/files/Install_mac ... ra.app.zip
For some reason, this requires you to bypass Gatekeeper but, once done, will work.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:08 pm
by bayswater
mikehalloran wrote:http://motunation.com/files/Install_mac ... ra.app.zip
For some reason, this requires you to bypass Gatekeeper but, once done, will work.
Doesn't that give reason to pause?

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:13 pm
by BobK
bayswater wrote:Doesn't that give reason to pause?
I used it to upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 > 5,1 from El Capitan to Sierra without any problems.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:16 pm
by bayswater
I wasn't asking whether it works. Rather, what is Gatekeeper seeing in this package that it doesn't like? Why isn't this happening when you install directly from the App Store?

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:54 pm
by mikehalloran
bayswater wrote:I wasn't asking whether it works. Rather, what is Gatekeeper seeing in this package that it doesn't like?
It’s not seeing a signed certificate. The zip file has the wrong name, as if it was zipped on a PC instead of a Mac. Was it archived using a 3rd party Utility? Strange.

The 10.12.6 installer I have doesn’t have this issue. I unzipped it and checked. I downloaded and archived it in Sierra the day before High Sierra was released.
Why isn't this happening when you install directly from the App Store?
You can’t get it from the App Store anymore.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:44 pm
by BobK
mikehalloran wrote:The zip file has the wrong name, as if it was zipped on a PC instead of a Mac. Was it archived using a 3rd party Utility?
I zipped it in the Finder of my Mac under Sierra.

When I originally downloaded it - from another forum - it was zipped, but I didn't save the zip archive.

At first I was concerned about the origins - I got it from an anonymous forum member. I don't know where he/she got it and didn't ask.

I'm normally more cautious about stuff like this, but I decided to just go for it and see if it worked - and it did. (I cloned my system drive before installing, so I figured I was somewhat safe.)

Not only did the install go smoothly, but my computer has been running fine ever since. It's been about two weeks.

BTW, I disable Gatekeeper on my Macs, so that wasn't an issue for me.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:54 pm
by James Steele
I changed the name of the zip archive to have underscores instead of spaces. I can send you FTP instructions, Mike, if you don't mind me sending it to me.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:56 am
by mikehalloran
James Steele wrote:I changed the name of the zip archive to have underscores instead of spaces. I can send you FTP instructions, Mike, if you don't mind me sending it to me.
On its way.

Apple removed FTP from the Terminal command line in High Sierra wt.? and browsers are allowing download only ... Anyway, I downloaded FileZilla, a crude but free FTP client that wants to install browser tabs and extensions (just click no). That installer crashed my browsers so close first.

No doubt there are better FTP clients out there but this is working in High Sierra (many don't). You should see it in a couple of hours according to the timer.

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:08 am
by James Steele
mikehalloran wrote:You should see it in a couple of hours according to the timer.
Yikes.... sorry for the hassle. Thanks so much, Mike!

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:52 pm
by mikehalloran
James Steele wrote:
mikehalloran wrote:You should see it in a couple of hours according to the timer.
Yikes.... sorry for the hassle. Thanks so much, Mike!
You're welcome. It took a little time; I learned a couple of things... I'm good. I hope it helps someone.

I'm not likely to go looking for another FTP client since FileZilla does work. The one I sold and supported at Distinct Corp 20 years ago was nicer but it's Win only. Hmmmm... it's gone as a stand-alone product (but then, so am I).
https://www.distinct.com/index.php/products/index

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:07 pm
by James Steele
Okay... I uploaded the installer Mike sent me. I'm using a different URL keeping the spaces in the file name (which show up as %20 in the URL). I've deleted the old installer, which was probably fine, but this new one should be 100% safe. If there's any issue with Gatekeeper, it might be because it's been up on a different server than Apple's at some point. It's a 4.7GB download. Here's the link:

macOS Sierra 10.12.6 Installer:
http://motunation.com/files/Install%20m ... ra.app.zip

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:15 am
by rentadrummer
This probably won't be needed because James already uploaded the installer, but I thought it was interesting that Sierra is available from the App Store:

From the MacInTouch forum:

"If you're looking for Sierra in the App Store, it looks like this link is working, at least for the moment:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-s ... 7414?mt=12

(I just verified that it works on one of my machines. Hat tip to the Low End Mac group on Facebook for the link.)

Why does Apple have to make everything so difficult these days?"

Is it better to download it from the App Store and quit the installer to save it, or is it the same installer that Mike provided?

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:36 am
by BobK
Thanks, rentadrummer! That worked.

I suspect it's better to have an installer downloaded from one's own Mac App Store account. I don't know this for sure, but I replaced the one I downloaded from another forum with this one (even though that one worked).

Weird: in the MAS, it's now listed under "Other Purchases" and "Purchase Date" is Jan 01, 2000.

Also: it says "Installed", which means it recognized the installation I did a couple of weeks ago with the other installer.

Thanks again!

Re: Download for Sierra 10.12. ?

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:10 pm
by mikehalloran
rentadrummer wrote:This probably won't be needed because James already uploaded the installer, but I thought it was interesting that Sierra is available from the App Store:

From the MacInTouch forum:

"If you're looking for Sierra in the App Store, it looks like this link is working, at least for the moment:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-s ... 7414?mt=12

(I just verified that it works on one of my machines. Hat tip to the Low End Mac group on Facebook for the link.)

Why does Apple have to make everything so difficult these days?"

Is it better to download it from the App Store and quit the installer to save it, or is it the same installer that Mike provided?
The file I uploaded is already zipped. This is important for the installer to work on any Mac other than the one that downloads it (unzipping on your Mac gives you the proper permissions and privileges if you are logged in as Admin). That is the only difference.

Cool find and hats off to Low End Mac group! Even knowing where it is, I cannot make that come up in any search of the web or the App Store. Thanks for posting it.

So, Apple has removed all links to it but left the file up. If there has to be a reason, I would think it is so that Apple Support can just email a link without having to open another back door to their FTP site.