record with effects and without effects

[Terry50]

Hi,
Mostly I want to record dry while hearing reverb etc.
BUT
I want the noise gate to be on and recorded to erase unwanted low sounds.

So, yea, I want the best of both worlds.
Is this possible?

Thank you,
Terry

[daniel.sneed]

For sure, tracking thru a noise gate is something I would never do.

There are so many situations where a gate would close, or open, slightly off the best timing. Early or late.
If it's printed, it's too late to tweak.

Depending on musical content, I often end up with manual editing.
Specially with live voice tracks. IMHO, yes, it's tedious, but worth-it.

[mhschmieder]

I agree with Daniel.

I also find manual editing of vocal tracks in particular, to be more useful, stripping silences, rather than using a noise gate even during production.

This allows me to normalize vocal segments in context, and to make mix decisions about splitting into additional vocal tracks for verse, chorus, backing, effects vocals, etc., and thus also apply different processing without resorting to complicated automation that isn't obvious at the 20,000 foot view.

[stubbsonic]

I agree with DS & MS, do the gate & reverb as monitor only and don't print either.

There won't be any difference between gating pre or post tracking except that are aren't stuck with it.

[EMRR]

What they said. +100.

[mikehalloran]

For a long time, you've been able to buy tools that can remove just about any artifact you can think of from a vocal track. Mouth noises, headphone bleed, mouth clicks, breath noise, background noise, 'plosives, tube preamp hiss etc ... all gone. Heck, RX 6 Advanced has a separate plug for each problem I listed.

There is no reason to Gate while tracking, especially as it can introduce additional problems at the threshold. Oh, RX 6 A can also remove reverb but it doesn't sound as good as not printing it in the first place.

Being able to remove them all doesn't mean you should. The results are often unnatural.

I have old hardware units I can run in my headphone system if I need.