How to move several faders at once?
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How to move several faders at once?
I used to know this, and now I can't remember. Nor can I find it in the manual.
How do you select multiple faders in the mixing board and move them together? Isn't there a keyboard shortcut to link them?
Thank you so much.
Mike
How do you select multiple faders in the mixing board and move them together? Isn't there a keyboard shortcut to link them?
Thank you so much.
Mike
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
Thanks, MLC. I found the page. Now I need to figure out how to do it. Anyway, DP crashed. I guess I'll have to figure it out later.
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
Another way is to shift-click the faders you want to move (they'll blink green and then you can move them at the same time).
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How to move several faders at once?
Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
Re: How to move several faders at once?
Get a Slate Raven... lol
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
Eeeewwww! That doesn't sound good, but luckily my moves were small, and mostly in the down direction.csavetman wrote:Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
Thanks, everyone.
Mike
Re: How to move several faders at once?
MOTU needs to get it together for a touch screen controller or align with Slate or ? Mac not having touch screen is probably holding them back. It's gonna happen sooner or later. Studio One and PT are already going for it. I rang the bell 14 months ago. Touch screens are now under $500... Come on MOTU jump in!
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
The DP mixing desk is in the dark ages. It just HAS to be addressed in the next major update. It's incredible to me how far behind it is from the rest of the application at this point. MOTU must face!
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
csavetman wrote:Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
I just checked this and the relative fader positions DO remain intact when <shift> clicking faders.
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
I'm still using mackie control with my Mackie MCU pro and expander with 16 faders and a master fader and has been working great for multiple moves and automation and prefer the real faders much more than the touch screen interfaces .
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
That's interesting. Hasn't worked with my setup for as long as I can remember. Currently on DP 9.12Don T wrote:csavetman wrote:Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
I just checked this and the relative fader positions DO remain intact when <shift> clicking faders.
Mac OS 10.10.5, but this has been an ongoing issue for me with earlier DP versions and operating systems.
Just to be clear, when I group faders, and move them UP from their initial grouped level, they begin to gradually lose their value offsets, until eventually, they all top out together. So if I have, for example, 3dB offsets across multiple channels, and group the faders, as I increase the level of 1 fader, the 3 dB offset, will begin to diminish, becoming smaller and smaller.
Doesn't seem to happen when grouping faders and going DOWN from their initial grouped levels.
I know about Trim function, but I'm speaking about channels that do not have volume automation values written yet.
Carlos
Re: How to move several faders at once?
Interesting ... I never realised this was how fader grouping worked in DP. I have the same behaviour as Carlos here in 9.02 and 9.12. Faders compress above the initial position but maintain their relationship below .... I can't think why it should be like thiscsavetman wrote:That's interesting. Hasn't worked with my setup for as long as I can remember. Currently on DP 9.12Don T wrote:csavetman wrote:Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
I just checked this and the relative fader positions DO remain intact when <shift> clicking faders.
Mac OS 10.10.5, but this has been an ongoing issue for me with earlier DP versions and operating systems.
Just to be clear, when I group faders, and move them UP from their initial grouped level, they begin to gradually lose their value offsets, until eventually, they all top out together. So if I have, for example, 3dB offsets across multiple channels, and group the faders, as I increase the level of 1 fader, the 3 dB offset, will begin to diminish, becoming smaller and smaller.
Doesn't seem to happen when grouping faders and going DOWN from their initial grouped levels.
I know about Trim function, but I'm speaking about channels that do not have volume automation values written yet.
Carlos
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
Hello,csavetman wrote:That's interesting. Hasn't worked with my setup for as long as I can remember. Currently on DP 9.12Don T wrote:csavetman wrote:Word of warning though. DP doesn't retain volume offsets if you group faders and move them up. (Relative offsets start to compress, till they max out together). Grouping and moving them down seems to work normally.
I just checked this and the relative fader positions DO remain intact when <shift> clicking faders.
Mac OS 10.10.5, but this has been an ongoing issue for me with earlier DP versions and operating systems.
Just to be clear, when I group faders, and move them UP from their initial grouped level, they begin to gradually lose their value offsets, until eventually, they all top out together. So if I have, for example, 3dB offsets across multiple channels, and group the faders, as I increase the level of 1 fader, the 3 dB offset, will begin to diminish, becoming smaller and smaller.
Doesn't seem to happen when grouping faders and going DOWN from their initial grouped levels.
I know about Trim function, but I'm speaking about channels that do not have volume automation values written yet.
Carlos
Don't forget we are talking about logarithmic functions so the visual distance will change but the value relationship remains until the fader is all the way to the top (it's not like the fader will magically go past it's limits). When you pull the fader back down to it's original position you will see that the positions are back where they started. Relationship maintained.
Don T
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Re: How to move several faders at once?
Hi Don-Don T wrote: Hello,
Don't forget we are talking about logarithmic functions so the visual distance will change but the value relationship remains until the fader is all the way to the top (it's not like the fader will magically go past it's limits). When you pull the fader back down to it's original position you will see that the positions are back where they started. Relationship maintained.
Don T
Yes, I'm aware of the logarithmic nature of fader resolution. However, I'm not talking about the "visual" distance between faders changing, I'm referring to the actual value relationships being altered.
The way I would expect grouped faders to work would be similar to routing faders to an aux track or master fader and changing the level of that fader.
Whatever level relationships you have established on the individual faders is maintained, simply louder of softer.
With grouped faders, if I have multiple channels grouped with, as an example 3 dB offsets between them, as soon as I INCREASE the level from the starting group position, the value offset
decreases. I can confirm this by looking at the level readouts for the channels.
You are correct, in that if I bring the faders back to their starting position ( the level they were at when initially grouped, they return to their offsets.
I'm simply stating that it doesn't maintain that offset when the fader is increased from that point.
It would be like assigning multiple channels to an aux or master fader, and as you increase that fader, your individual channel blend changes.
Strange behavior.
Carlos