click into Bounce?
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click into Bounce?
morning, all
99 times out of 100 I would never want my click included in a bounce. But in this morning's case, I do.
I've set the "always" Audio Click to output to bus1-2.
created an Aux track with bus 1-2 as it's input, and Ana 1-2 as it's output. Created a Master track.
When I roll with Click On, I can see the Click coming up in the Aux & in the Master and, of course, hear it.
But when I select Aux & Master and another track - with Click still On - and bounce (with Ana 1-2 as my source) the resultant soundbite has no Click.
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99 times out of 100 I would never want my click included in a bounce. But in this morning's case, I do.
I've set the "always" Audio Click to output to bus1-2.
created an Aux track with bus 1-2 as it's input, and Ana 1-2 as it's output. Created a Master track.
When I roll with Click On, I can see the Click coming up in the Aux & in the Master and, of course, hear it.
But when I select Aux & Master and another track - with Click still On - and bounce (with Ana 1-2 as my source) the resultant soundbite has no Click.
??
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Re: click into Bounce?
I wonder if DP just omits the click by default to avoid unintended clicks on mixes. Might make sense to just bus it to another pair and print it to an audio track.
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Re: click into Bounce?
That's what I do.... just play four beats into a track, quantize them to 1/4 notes, and start the sequence on measure 2.
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Re: click into Bounce?
A little tangential, but I always have that first "dead" bar.Gravity Jim wrote:That's what I do.... just play four beats into a track, quantize them to 1/4 notes, and start the sequence on measure 2.
Probably a holdover from the only MIDI days with the patch selects and controller info prior to the actual song!
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Re: click into Bounce?
hey guys, thanks all for your responses.
I think stubbsonic nailed it when he wrote:
but thanks again, all!
I think stubbsonic nailed it when he wrote:
and as for:stubbsonic wrote:I wonder if DP just omits the click by default to avoid unintended clicks on mixes.
I was going to do that, but my track was 6+ min. long and, needing click thruout, I just thought it might be quicker to do it in a Bounce.stubbsonic wrote:Might make sense to just bus it to another pair and print it to an audio track.
but thanks again, all!
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Re: click into Bounce?
Well, if your tempo and meter are static and doesn't change throughout a long section, you can print 2 measures of audio then loop that infinitely or the right number of times. That would save you that 6 minute pass.williemyers wrote:I was going to do that, but my track was 6+ min. long and, needing click thruout, I just thought it might be quicker to do it in a Bounce.stubbsonic wrote:Might make sense to just bus it to another pair and print it to an audio track.
but thanks again, all!
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Re: click into Bounce?
ah, never used a loop on a bounce before! thanks for that!stubbsonic wrote:Well, if your tempo and meter are static and doesn't change throughout a long section, you can print 2 measures of audio then loop that infinitely or the right number of times. That would save you that 6 minute pass.
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Re: click into Bounce?
If your click is set to an external device, I would think you could bus that back into DP. If that is not possible, what I would probably do is record the click track in Audio Hijack and import that into the DP project, then bounce from there.
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Re: click into Bounce?
Since DP allows you to assign the click to any output or bus, you can just record it in DP without bringing Audio Hijack into the process. DP will record the click from a bus in realtime, you just can't include it in a bounce. I see the logic of that-- bounce what is in the tracks window. Your trick to bring it over to an Aux track just assumes that DP even activates a click in the bounce operation, which it apparently does not. I suppose we can think of it a bit like hiding the cursor for a screen capture.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:If your click is set to an external device, I would think you could bus that back into DP. If that is not possible, what I would probably do is record the click track in Audio Hijack and import that into the DP project, then bounce from there.
As a workflow you can always record your click the background in the same pass that you record another track in realtime. And, as mentioned, a short loop for a static tempo/meter/pattern, will work in a bounce. Furthermore, you could-- in your template-- bus the click to some unique bus that you wouldn't otherwise use), and create a track that is dedicated to the click (and input monitoring turned on). That way it is always already set up.
But it sounds like this was an unusual case for you, anyway.
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