Using Precision Delay on drums

[philbrown]

Anyone have any tips on using the Precision Delay to align drum tracks? I'm not sure where to start and what to use as a reference, etc. Any tips and ideas appreciated.

EDIT: also- I don't understand this:

If the All option is enabled, all non-reference signals are corrected.

[Robert Randolph]

I could never get it to work correctly on percussive sources. You can see more about my journey with it here http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62467&start=15#p533617

However, I've tried the following products that all work great:

Melda MAutoAlign

Sound Radix Auto-Align

Waves InPhase

I purchased Waves InPhase yesterday for $24, however the Melda Mixing bundle includes MAutoAlign and is a great deal if you like their products. The Sound Radix product was the most accurate on first try for me, but I prefer the workflow and price of InPhase.

[mikehalloran]

I could never get it to work. You can see more here http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62467&start=15#p533617

...I purchased Waves InPhase yesterday for $24, however the Melda Mixing bundle includes MAutoAlign and is a great deal if you like their products.

I own Eventide's Precision Time Align—currently $29.
https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/ ... time-align

Scrub in for Surgery

Precision Time Align is a high precision sub-sample delay that can slide a track forward or backwards in time. It will help you get perfectly synchronized double-tracked recordings completely eliminating timing anomalies and phase issues from your mix, especially on multi-miked drums, vocals and instruments.

Blowout Comb

Precision Time Align allows for synchronizing signals to microsecond accuracy, up to 1/64th of a sample. Recording drums, an electric guitar cabinet or vocals with more than one mic can be challenging. While the sound recorded from each microphone might sound good on its own, mixing them together can introduce phase anomalies like comb filtering (phased, hollow sound) or low frequency attenuation. Editing in your D.A.W. can help with time-alignment on a sample level, but Precision Time Align is 64x more efficient.

This Plug-in is also part of the Anthology X Bundle. Here's the list.
https://www.eventideaudio.com/specials/holiday-sale

[philbrown]

Thanks Robert and Mike! I was just looking at the Eventide one on sale. I've got a bunch of drums to mix at the moment so I may jump on that one but I'll have a look at your suggestions first Robert. Already bought Eventide's Black Hole on sale a couple of days ago. It rocks.

[Robert Randolph]

Thanks Robert and Mike! I was just looking at the Eventide one on sale. I've got a bunch of drums to mix at the moment so I may jump on that one but I'll have a look at your suggestions first Robert. Already bought Eventide's Black Hole on sale a couple of days ago. It rocks.

If you just want to manually move sliders, the Motu Precision Delay may work for you. It's the automatic part that fails, and the Eventide product does not offer that.

Waves InPhase doesn't offer the automatic method either, but it does give a lot of tools for doing it manually better.

[mikehalloran]

Thanks Robert and Mike! I was just looking at the Eventide one on sale. I've got a bunch of drums to mix at the moment so I may jump on that one but I'll have a look at your suggestions first Robert. Already bought Eventide's Black Hole on sale a couple of days ago. It rocks.

If you just want to manually move sliders, the Motu Precision Delay may work for you. It's the automatic part that fails, and the Eventide product does not offer that.

Waves InPhase doesn't offer the automatic method either, but it does give a lot of tools for doing it manually better.

Manual adjustment with the Eventide takes a few seconds and is fairly intuitive. If you can't get what you want with 1/64 sample resolution...
There are actually two plugs in the package, Precision Time Aligh and Precision Time Delay. Nearly identical except that one has an inverter so that you can find the null point--if that's what you need. Here's the User Guide.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.eventide.d ... +Guide.pdf

This is an oldie but Eventide didn't break it out of the bundle and offer it separately till last year. I snagged it at the same $29 back then and have been happy.

It has had a couple of incremental updates since but the only way to know is to log into your Eventide account and check version numbers.

I've no dog in the race. The object is to get the job done, of course. The Waves has gone back to $29.