Expand2 by Air on sale
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Expand2 by Air on sale
Any one interested for $1.00 at Audio Deluxe. A great VI
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Re: Expand2 by Air on sale
At that price, its very likely this is a discontinued
product or about to be discontinued.
Maybe it sounds great...at $1.00 you really have
nothing to lose.
product or about to be discontinued.
Maybe it sounds great...at $1.00 you really have
nothing to lose.
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MOTU 828 mk3 hybrid
DAWs & Live: MOTU Digital Performer 11.31 | Cantabile Performer 4
Keyboard Synths: Kawai K5000s, Korg Wavestation
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Akai MPK249 & 225, Alesis QX49, Behringer BCF2000 & FCB1010
Rack Modules: Ensoniq ESQm, Yamaha TX81Z, Wavestation SR
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Re: Expand2 by Air on sale
"All it takes is a dollar and a dream." -- NY Lottery slogan.
Went for it. Seriously tempted to go for the full $75 version, but been really racking up the bargains this month and we haven't even gotten to Black Friday and all that yet!
BTW, aren't all or most of these synths that ship with Protools?
Babz
Went for it. Seriously tempted to go for the full $75 version, but been really racking up the bargains this month and we haven't even gotten to Black Friday and all that yet!
BTW, aren't all or most of these synths that ship with Protools?
Babz
Re: Expand2 by Air on sale
Check out patch 012 Organs -> Jazz Percussive+. I'm getting all sorts of digital grit and clipping noise (even though my CPU meter is barely registering and my gain level is not clipping). Other organ patches do the same (e.g., Jazz More+).
What's the deal? Are you guys getting this too?
Babz
What's the deal? Are you guys getting this too?
Babz
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Those patches are fine for me, no other issues discovered yet, either.
First impression is what a deal, TONS of really useable, fast loading stuff. It appears to be very limited in editing/controller implementation, etc. But I'll read the manual tonight.
It appears to be deprecated, as V3 is about to come out, they're hoping we'll upgrade, which I certainly might!
Thanks for the link.
First impression is what a deal, TONS of really useable, fast loading stuff. It appears to be very limited in editing/controller implementation, etc. But I'll read the manual tonight.
It appears to be deprecated, as V3 is about to come out, they're hoping we'll upgrade, which I certainly might!
Thanks for the link.
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Re: Expand2 by Air on sale
I tested again and it seems to require that you play a sustained 4 note chord. I don't get it with single notes.SMS wrote:Those patches are fine for me,
Could you try a test for me? Using the preset: patch 012 Organs -> Jazz Percussive+, play a Cmaj 7 chord starting with C2
C2 E2 G2 B2 and hold the chord for a couple of seconds.
This would be really helpful. I can't imagine why I would be only getting it with just this patch and no anyone else.
Here is an audio example:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3j5pfxwxos9y ... e.mp3?dl=0
[Note: you don't need Dropbox to listen.
Just choose "No thanks, continue to view".]
Thanks,
Babz
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Another bug I ran across. Modulation seems to get screwed up when switching from one patch to another. For example, the patch 008 Hard Leads -> Cry Saw+ has mod wheel assigned to pitch (vibrato). And if you start off with a fresh instantiation of X!pand2_X64 and load that patch, it works fine.
But if you then delete the track and load X!pand2_X64 and start with a different patch (say 012 Organs -> Full Rock, which has Mod Wheel assigned to Leslie speed), and THEN switch back to 008 Hard Leads -> Cry Saw+, suddenly its mod wheel is assigned to *filter*! And when it gets into this state, no amount of editing the Mod parameters can override and get your pitch vibrato back. And the filter assignment seems to carry over to other patches as well as you load them. Very bizarre and frustrating.
It may be somewhat inconsistent to get it to happen the first time, but if you change patches enough and try mod wheel on every patch, you will run into it.
So, yes, a bargain for $1, and many useful patches, but definitely has bugs, bugs that are not likely to ever be fixed.
Babz
But if you then delete the track and load X!pand2_X64 and start with a different patch (say 012 Organs -> Full Rock, which has Mod Wheel assigned to Leslie speed), and THEN switch back to 008 Hard Leads -> Cry Saw+, suddenly its mod wheel is assigned to *filter*! And when it gets into this state, no amount of editing the Mod parameters can override and get your pitch vibrato back. And the filter assignment seems to carry over to other patches as well as you load them. Very bizarre and frustrating.
It may be somewhat inconsistent to get it to happen the first time, but if you change patches enough and try mod wheel on every patch, you will run into it.
So, yes, a bargain for $1, and many useful patches, but definitely has bugs, bugs that are not likely to ever be fixed.
Babz
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Here's an easier way to reproduce the mod wheel bug.
Start with 019 Guitars ->Distorted Guitar+. Play with mod wheel (assigned to vibrato). Switch to the very next preset using the triangle arrow, Dyna Wah 56 Strat+. It has mod wheel assigned to wah (filter). Play and move mod wheel. Now switch back to previous preset Distorted Guitar+. Mod wheel no longer works.
B.
Start with 019 Guitars ->Distorted Guitar+. Play with mod wheel (assigned to vibrato). Switch to the very next preset using the triangle arrow, Dyna Wah 56 Strat+. It has mod wheel assigned to wah (filter). Play and move mod wheel. Now switch back to previous preset Distorted Guitar+. Mod wheel no longer works.
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Quick test of the Organ patch shows no problem, even with polyphony maxed- will test the mod wheel when I get a chance.
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You played the exact chord in the exact register I specified? (I ask because it is much harder to detect in other parts of the keyboard.)SMS wrote:Quick test of the Organ patch shows no problem, even with polyphony maxed- will test the mod wheel when I get a chance.
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Yes, When I play that same voicing, I get the crackles. I suspect it's IM distortion.
Still haven't had a chance to test the mod issues.
Still haven't had a chance to test the mod issues.
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YES! Thank you! Finally. Shared perceptual reality. Something I'm a big fan of. Just a strange perfect-storm that that happened to be one of the first patches I tried, and that happened to be one of the first chords I played. Intermodulation distortion makes sense, some combination of the Leslie effect, the way it was sampled, and notes in that particular frequency range.SMS wrote:Yes, When I play that same voicing, I get the crackles. I suspect it's IM distortion.
Hopefully I'll be proved non-delusional on that one too. Fingers crossed.SMS wrote:Still haven't had a chance to test the mod issues.
Babz