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Place wiper at END of selection command?

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Hello.
I looked for a command to quickly put the wiper at the end of a selection, but I don't see anything in the commands window.

Can anyone share how you accomplish this?

When I want to put the wiper at the beginning of a selection, I press Control-Space, and that puts it there, but it plays the selection. Anyone knows how to do this without the music playing, just positioning it at the beginning or end?

Thanks!
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Wild guess... add the shift key to the key sequence?
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I was never able to to this either but there are a few ways to do it with two commands. I ended up with the 2 key commands set to adjacent F keys so I could hit them in quick succession.
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CMD-6

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Oh duh... it plays... sorry.
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FMiguelez wrote:Hello.
I looked for a command to quickly put the wiper at the end of a selection, but I don't see anything in the commands window.

Can anyone share how you accomplish this?

When I want to put the wiper at the beginning of a selection, I press Control-Space, and that puts it there, but it plays the selection. Anyone knows how to do this without the music playing, just positioning it at the beginning or end?

Thanks!
If you give me a little more context, I might be able to suggest something to help. Specifically, what are you doing when you need to do this? What operations are you performing? Or are you just going through a section, changing some controllers or velocities, then moving on to the next section to play that? Are you doing Take Comping, and wanting to move to the next section?

You can use COMMAND 6 which will PLAY from the end of the selection.

Basically, there are some commands that can get you there without playing, but they will change the Memory as well as the Selection. Maybe someone else has one or two that won't do that. Since you'll want to set these up as dual commands, I'll just tell you the commands to search for, and you can set them to whatever works for you in all the windows.

First: Move Selection to Next Event
2nd: Go to Memory Start

Notice, you've changed both Selection and Memory in doing that. I like to preserve both, so I use the old fashioned way: just type it in.

Remember in the old days at the supermarket, the cashier had a cash register with numbers all over it. I'd watch the lady checking us out, and her hand would fly over that machine with unimaginable speed. I couldn't even follow it. Most of us musicians have developed similar skills on our instruments, especially those like the piano or violin. So, it's really nothing to hit the keypad DOT, followed by a bar number, followed by the Enter key. You can do it in no more time than it takes to hit a special key for moving the cursor, and the great thing is that you don't have to remember keys for various places to move it. You only need to know the bar number. When I'm working on music in DP, I tend to have all the important bars memorized anyway, from which I can extrapolate the location of an event close to one of those important bars. I usually get within a beat or two, if not the exact note. of course, you can always read it in the timeline, then go there. But I may sacrifice perfect exactitude for expedience. If I need for it to be perfect, say to use in setting the next memory start or selection start, I'll just read the exact location and type it in. The point is that we can type it in as fast as those checkers at the old grocery store cash registers, before everything had barcodes.

I know a lot of shortcuts, and I use them when I think they'll help. If I'm doing something repetitive, there's nothing like keyboard shortcuts to speed up the task. But for random moves, entering selection ranges, memory ranges, and so forth, you'd probably be surprised how often I choose the low-tech route. That's not to say that I don't use my super-fast workflows that I've developed. I do. It's just that sometimes there's no real speed gain in moving your hands to another place on the keyboard, as opposed to clicking near your current location or typing in numbers on the keypad.

Last of all, you asked for a way to move your cursor to the selection start without playing: that would be
SET MEMORY TO SELECTION, followed by
GO TO MEMORY START.

I set these up with the following key commands, respectively:
CONTROL-OPTION-X
CONTROL-OPTION-C

Incidentally, to go the other way and set Selection to Memory, I set up:
CONTROL-OPTION-COMMAND-X
Just add the command key to the other one, and it reverses the direction and puts your current memory boundaries into the selection locations.

All those kinds of controls are only useful if you can remember them, so I try to set them around each other to a thematic core set of command modifiers and/or keys. I remember finger patterns better than actual letters and symbols, so I'm thinking more in terms of bunches of fingers, followed by keys in a range for a range of commands. I change them when I find myself wanting a particular command closer to another command.

Hope that made sense.

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By the way, DP seems a little short on "Go to" commands. Maybe if MOTU would add a command line for "go to beginning/end of selection" it would help us out a little. I think we can make commands for setting all the range start and stop points, and interchange them with the others of the big 3 type of ranges:
Memory
Auto-Record
Selection
(these three form the mnemonic "MAS.")

But I'd have to look at the Commands Window to be sure that they are actually all there. But I do believe we are ready for an increase in available commands to customize to our preferences. Maybe we need a thread on that.

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Three keystrokes but it works.
(use keypad)
2
command-6
0

pause
play from end of selection
stop

If you pause the transport, command 6 moves the wiper but pause stays in effect.
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Phil O wrote:Three keystrokes but it works.
(use keypad)
2
command-6
0

pause
play from end of selection
stop

If you pause the transport, command 6 moves the wiper but pause stays in effect.
Excellent solution for me, Phil! Thanks!

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Phil O wrote:Three keystrokes but it works.
(use keypad)
2
command-6
0

pause
play from end of selection
stop

If you pause the transport, command 6 moves the wiper but pause stays in effect.
Sounds like a winner to me!
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Phil O wrote:Three keystrokes but it works.
Nice one! Thanks for the tip.
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You are welcome. But, I'm wondering if it helps the OP.

FM?
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Phil O wrote:You are welcome. But, I'm wondering if it helps the OP.

FM?

With a key macro liked Quickeys or keyboard maestro you could do it in my me very easily. Very elegant solution. :) "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." ~ Da Vinci? Michaelangelo? Bach?
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:~ Da Vinci? Michaelangelo? Bach?
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