Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
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- Robert Randolph
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Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
Is it possible to add/remove/disable all inserts on a specific slot, across all tracks, in DP?
Am I missing something here?
Am I missing something here?
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
When you say "a specific slot, across all tracks," do you mean, for example, all slot #3's in every track? Horizontally?Robert Randolph wrote:Is it possible to add/remove/disable all inserts on a specific slot, across all tracks, in DP?
Am I missing something here?
So, you're asking if you can add, delete, or disable all inserts in row #3? If you used a Trim plugin in slot #3 of each and every track, you're asking if you could add, disable, or delete all Trim Plugins (row #3)? If that's what you're asking, the answer is no.
Of course you know you can do roughly that with columns. That is, individual channel strips. But I know of no global commands for inserts, at least not trending in a horizontal direction across the mixing board.
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
What you described what I'm looking for. Say I want to insert a plugin on the first slot of every track (or every selected track).Shooshie wrote:When you say "a specific slot, across all tracks," do you mean, for example, all slot #3's in every track? Horizontally?Robert Randolph wrote:Is it possible to add/remove/disable all inserts on a specific slot, across all tracks, in DP?
Am I missing something here?
So, you're asking if you can add, delete, or disable all inserts in row #3? If you used a Trim plugin in slot #3 of each and every track, you're asking if you could add, disable, or delete all Trim Plugins (row #3)? If that's what you're asking, the answer is no.
Of course you know you can do roughly that with columns. That is, individual channel strips. But I know of no global commands for inserts, at least not trending in a horizontal direction across the mixing board.
Shoosh
If the answer is no, are there any workarounds that would work for an existing large project?
Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
A workaround: group the tracks, and in the Sequence Editor, set it to show the bypass parameter for the insert on one of the tracks, and draw a bypass event at the start of that track.Robert Randolph wrote:
If the answer is no, are there any workarounds that would work for an existing large project?
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
If the setup is similar, you could make your mixer and save it. Option-drag to quickly move insert effects across. But you already got those.
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
It's interesting that copy/paste partially works for inserts. By partially I mean you can click on an insert or shift-click more than one insert on a track to select multiple inserts and copy. Then go to another track select an insert and paste. This results in the copied items replacing what was in the inserts for that track (all the inserts). So it's great for duplicating a track's inserts or a portion of them. Play around with it and you'll see what I mean. There doesn't seem to be any way to paste inserts to a track with empty inserts as far as I can tell (that would be nice), and pasting does overwrite everything else in the pasted tracks. There might be something here that helps with a work-around. Don't know.
I've always thought adding "Add Inserts" and "Delete Inserts" to the Track Groups options would be nice. Or better still, a whole section on grouping insert actions.
I've always thought adding "Add Inserts" and "Delete Inserts" to the Track Groups options would be nice. Or better still, a whole section on grouping insert actions.
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
What I'd like is:
- • select a group of tracks
• pick an insert (or send) in a slot on any one track of the selected group
• have the remaining selected tracks have that insert or send inserted in the corresponding slot
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
I know the convenience you all are looking for, and I'd like that too. It's something to ask for, and it's time has come, because of the massive Mixing Boards we're looking at today.
In the meantime, my workaround has long been to set it up once, then to use that mix over and over. It's not easy or convenient, but it works, and I've done it for years. It's still much faster than replacing all those plugins in all those tracks. Here are the steps:
What do we ask MOTU for? Maybe:
We need to ask MOTU to allow in the Chunks Window, a way to:
Shoosh
In the meantime, my workaround has long been to set it up once, then to use that mix over and over. It's not easy or convenient, but it works, and I've done it for years. It's still much faster than replacing all those plugins in all those tracks. Here are the steps:
- 1) Set it up once. (yeah, that's the hard part)
2) When creating a new sequence, duplicate the chunk (not the track layout, which doesn't take the plugins with it)
3) Delete all the data. (Select all, delete) Note that this will not delete takes. If you have a lot of takes:- a) Group all tracks with all options selected
b) Show takes
c) Select all
d) Delete
- a) Group all tracks with all options selected
What do we ask MOTU for? Maybe:
- "Extend plugin application to [x] slots right/left."
- Save Mix [Locally] [Globally]
- "Duplicate Track Layout" with check box: "Import Saved Mixes"
We need to ask MOTU to allow in the Chunks Window, a way to:
- "Duplicate Track Layout" with check box: "Import Saved Mixes"
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
Thanks for the ideas.Shooshie wrote:I know the convenience you all are looking for, and I'd like that too. It's something to ask for, and it's time has come, because of the massive Mixing Boards we're looking at today.
In the meantime, my workaround has long been to set it up once, then to use that mix over and over. It's not easy or convenient, but it works, and I've done it for years. It's still much faster than replacing all those plugins in all those tracks. Here are the steps:Unless they've changed the way plugins are retained when duplicating a chunk or deleting data, that will work.
- 1) Set it up once. (yeah, that's the hard part)
2) When creating a new sequence, duplicate the chunk (not the track layout, which doesn't take the plugins with it)
3) Delete all the data. (Select all, delete) Note that this will not delete takes. If you have a lot of takes:4) At this point you should have a blank slate, but with plugins as per your original setup.
- a) Group all tracks with all options selected
b) Show takes
c) Select all
d) Delete
What do we ask MOTU for? Maybe:However, here's one I've asked for many times over the years:
- "Extend plugin application to [x] slots right/left."
A globally saved mix would apply to any sequence with the same tracks in the same order. So, you'd still need to duplicate track layout (gives the same track layout without any data; a blank slate) then apply the globally saved mix. I see the problem with that: After a dozen globally saved mixes, you'd have no idea which ones would work with any given track layout. Maybe a better alternative would be:
- Save Mix [Locally] [Globally]
I think that last one is the answer. Let me repeat that.
- "Duplicate Track Layout" with check box: "Import Saved Mixes"
We need to ask MOTU to allow in the Chunks Window, a way to:
- "Duplicate Track Layout" with check box: "Import Saved Mixes"
Shoosh
Personally, I'd like if inserts were groupable with track groups.
I'd not only like to insert plugins across selected tracks, but also control them simultaneously as well. I've experienced this workflow in another DAW recently and oh my... it's extremely useful for me.
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Re: Adding/removing/disabling inserts across tracks?
That's another I've been wanting. I wish I could think of them all, but there are several grouping parameters we need. They go away when I'm not using groups!Robert Randolph wrote:Personally, I'd like if inserts were groupable with track groups.
Shoosh
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