Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
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- Rick Cornish
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Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Hi......
I have 22 Waves plugs, and all have worked fine in DP. I recently picked up Greg Wells mix centric on sale, and it opens with a blank window (no graphic). The plug actually works (I can select presets and they affect the track), but no visual of the controls/faders/knob.
I'm running DP9.01 under Yosemite. Waves tech support is scratching their heads. Anyone else encounter anything like this?
I have 22 Waves plugs, and all have worked fine in DP. I recently picked up Greg Wells mix centric on sale, and it opens with a blank window (no graphic). The plug actually works (I can select presets and they affect the track), but no visual of the controls/faders/knob.
I'm running DP9.01 under Yosemite. Waves tech support is scratching their heads. Anyone else encounter anything like this?
Last edited by Rick Cornish on Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
Rick Cornish
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- Shooshie
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window
Have you reinstalled it? I'm sure Waves Tech Support has already asked that.
I'm stumped, too, though I've seen things like that temporarily. A restart usually fixed things.
See if it happens when you open another project, or an older backup version of the current project.
Shooshie
I'm stumped, too, though I've seen things like that temporarily. A restart usually fixed things.
See if it happens when you open another project, or an older backup version of the current project.
Shooshie
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window
Thanks, Shooshie.Shooshie wrote:Have you reinstalled it? I'm sure Waves Tech Support has already asked that.
I'm stumped, too, though I've seen things like that temporarily. A restart usually fixed things.
See if it happens when you open another project, or an older backup version of the current project.
Shooshie
Yep--Uninstalled and re-installed all Waves plug-ins.
Tested on a new DP project and the Waves tech who I was screen-sharing with was able to force the graphics to cache (I think by repeatedly changing presets, though he was working so fast, it's hard to be sure). The same approach was unsuccessful on a project with data in it.
I'll try another restart and zap the P-RAM for good measure.
Rick Cornish
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window
I would try a reinstall of DP then repair permissions
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window
That seems drastic.....any particular reason why?mikehalloran wrote:I would try a reinstall of DP then repair permissions
I was also wondering if updating to 9.02 would be worth a try. Thoughts?
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Hi Gang.......
For those who may be interested, I've been working through this issue with Waves tech and my own Mac guru since my last post. 4 screen share sessions later, I was resigned to creating a new user account and started down that road.
Then I happened to report one additional problem with Waves in my original User act (unable to load artist presets) and got this response…
Opened Font Book (I don’t think I’d ever opened it before on this computer) and discovered Arial was turned off. Turned it on and Waves stuff works fine. Restored all other preferences (except Font Book) and problem solved.
Never would’ve guessed that one, but apparently, it’s come up for them before.
So, if your Waves stuff is acting weird, try checking Font Book to be sure Arial is working.
(This is officially my weirdest glitch fix yet.)
For those who may be interested, I've been working through this issue with Waves tech and my own Mac guru since my last post. 4 screen share sessions later, I was resigned to creating a new user account and started down that road.
Then I happened to report one additional problem with Waves in my original User act (unable to load artist presets) and got this response…
Hi Rick;
Consulting this case with our QA dept., they suspect there is an issue with Arial font on your former Mac user.
This can also be the reason for not seeing the presets in the same Mac user.
Please go to Font Book application and make sure Arial is installed, enabled and works properly.
Let me know how it goes please.
Opened Font Book (I don’t think I’d ever opened it before on this computer) and discovered Arial was turned off. Turned it on and Waves stuff works fine. Restored all other preferences (except Font Book) and problem solved.
Never would’ve guessed that one, but apparently, it’s come up for them before.
So, if your Waves stuff is acting weird, try checking Font Book to be sure Arial is working.
(This is officially my weirdest glitch fix yet.)
Rick Cornish
DP 11 on M2 Mac Studio (64mB mem. + 2tB int. SSD + two 2tB ext. SSDs, and Mac OS Sonoma). VIs from MOTU, Spectrasonics, NI, UVI, 8dio, Soniccouture, East West, Spitfire, Heavyocity, Vir2, and more; plus Waves 14, Brainworx, iZotope, Wavesfactory, Oeksound, Final Mix, JST, SPL, PSP, UVI, Valhalla DSP, and other FX plugs, Roland A-88, Apogee Quartet, iCON Platform Nano, Genelec 1032a and Westlake BBSM4 monitors, Gibson HR Fusion III. rickcornish.net
DP 11 on M2 Mac Studio (64mB mem. + 2tB int. SSD + two 2tB ext. SSDs, and Mac OS Sonoma). VIs from MOTU, Spectrasonics, NI, UVI, 8dio, Soniccouture, East West, Spitfire, Heavyocity, Vir2, and more; plus Waves 14, Brainworx, iZotope, Wavesfactory, Oeksound, Final Mix, JST, SPL, PSP, UVI, Valhalla DSP, and other FX plugs, Roland A-88, Apogee Quartet, iCON Platform Nano, Genelec 1032a and Westlake BBSM4 monitors, Gibson HR Fusion III. rickcornish.net
Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Wow! You solved a very old problem I had. Back in the day (when I still was using Waves products) I had a problem where DP would crash on launch. I guessed it was a font issue because I had just disabled a bunch of fonts that I thought I didn't need. I THOUGHT it was a DP issue and contacted MOTU to find out what fonts I needed installed to run DP. They assured me that if I re-installed DP it would take care of it - but it didn't. So I turned on all the fonts and disabled them half at a time until I found the culprit, Arial. Until today I thought that was a DP issue, but I guess I was wrong.
Phil
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- Rick Cornish
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Glad to hear this helped, Phil! (BTW: Waves said to look out for a corrupt Arial font, so you might want to check that out.)
I'm having a hard time getting my head around how a font could affect audio plug-ins. But then there's much under the hood that I will never understand.
Regardless, it's just one more reason to despise Arial. I have many…
http://www.marksimonson.com/notebook/vi ... e-of-arial
I'm having a hard time getting my head around how a font could affect audio plug-ins. But then there's much under the hood that I will never understand.
Regardless, it's just one more reason to despise Arial. I have many…
http://www.marksimonson.com/notebook/vi ... e-of-arial
Rick Cornish
DP 11 on M2 Mac Studio (64mB mem. + 2tB int. SSD + two 2tB ext. SSDs, and Mac OS Sonoma). VIs from MOTU, Spectrasonics, NI, UVI, 8dio, Soniccouture, East West, Spitfire, Heavyocity, Vir2, and more; plus Waves 14, Brainworx, iZotope, Wavesfactory, Oeksound, Final Mix, JST, SPL, PSP, UVI, Valhalla DSP, and other FX plugs, Roland A-88, Apogee Quartet, iCON Platform Nano, Genelec 1032a and Westlake BBSM4 monitors, Gibson HR Fusion III. rickcornish.net
DP 11 on M2 Mac Studio (64mB mem. + 2tB int. SSD + two 2tB ext. SSDs, and Mac OS Sonoma). VIs from MOTU, Spectrasonics, NI, UVI, 8dio, Soniccouture, East West, Spitfire, Heavyocity, Vir2, and more; plus Waves 14, Brainworx, iZotope, Wavesfactory, Oeksound, Final Mix, JST, SPL, PSP, UVI, Valhalla DSP, and other FX plugs, Roland A-88, Apogee Quartet, iCON Platform Nano, Genelec 1032a and Westlake BBSM4 monitors, Gibson HR Fusion III. rickcornish.net
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Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Interesting read RickRick Cornish wrote:
Regardless, it's just one more reason to despise Arial. I have many…
http://www.marksimonson.com/notebook/vi ... e-of-arial
Re: Blank Waves Plug-In Window—SOLVED!
Back in the olden days, my company was Aardvark Graphics. I did graphic design, advertising and typesetting. Later I became Aardvark Graphics and Sound, and now it's just Aardvark Sound. So I have a long relationship with typefaces. Yeah, I hate Arial, too!
BTW, my logo is built around Helvetica.
Phil
BTW, my logo is built around Helvetica.
Phil
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