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Oldest Version Of DP That Works With Latest Mac OS?

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The MOTU site shows the minimum requirements for various versions of DP, but is there a place that lists the latest version of a Mac OS that will work with an older version of DP? In other words, will DP5, 6 or 7 run on Yosemite or El Capitan, or do they stop working at some point with an OS prior to the release of Yosemite or El Capitan?

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7.24 runs perfectly fine on El capitan

Pretty sure though 5 and 6 wouldn't
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5.13 and 6.03 work if you install and authorize in OS 10.6.8 with Rosetta, run Repair Permissions (can take hours) then update the OS. If something glitches and you have to reinstall, you have to bring the Mac back to OS 10.6.8 and start over again. Fun, eh?

The earliest version that installs and authorizes after 10.7 is DP 7.24. You can use any DP 7 CD and the 7.24 updater as long as your Mac can see the CD. You will get a QuickScribe font message—it is not an error. To make the msg go away, drill down to the QS font in the Applications/DP 7 folder, open the font and click on Install.

In El Cap, run Permissions Repair from Terminal. This is necessary with DP 7.
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DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
I actually switched away from DP at V6 :vomit: (came back at v8).
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Yea, I went back to 5 and didn't go forward again till I pre-ordered 8 when I got and installed 7.24.
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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
:rofl:

can laugh now... at the time, not so much
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kassonica wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
:rofl:

can laugh now... at the time, not so much
It's a philosophical laugh, but I have trouble thinking back to any versions between the change to OS X and 6.0. DP4.0 was absolutely scary. I wondered whether I'd be able to do my job, and in fact, I delayed bringing OS X online at my clients studios until version 4.5, which was an actual version release with its own manual, not just an update. There were things that still didn't work, like Tap Tempo, which was all over the place. (it only recently was fixed in DP9)

Things started getting better after 6, with 7.0 being the best version release ever. It appears to me that what we used to call Digital Performer is gone, replaced by something that is still in development, but will be a lot better. It retains the user interface, and all the features and user architecture of the old DP, but it has been rewritten much more efficiently, with lots of new features, commands and shortcuts. Like OS X, it gives one the user experience of its predecessor, but adds so much more that you can hardly call it the same app, and the changes under the hood are huge.

I guess we can laugh, now, but there were many years of touch-and-go, wondering if we were going to get out of that rut. It took a long time. It's been 13 years since DP4 for OS X, and we're still climbing.

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The deficiencies of DP 6 have progressed to the status of legend, and are on the path to myth.
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bayswater wrote:The deficiencies of DP 6 have progressed to the status of legend, and are on the path to myth.
it was/is no myth, DP6 was a disaster and best forgotten
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kassonica wrote:
bayswater wrote:The deficiencies of DP 6 have progressed to the status of legend, and are on the path to myth.
it was/is no myth, DP6 was a disaster and best forgotten
No, it's a legend, to become a myth.
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bayswater wrote:The deficiencies of DP 6 have progressed to the status of legend, and are on the path to myth.
The fact that it broke my ability to save and play back synth-setup sysex dumps to and from DP still boggles my mind. Sure, it recorded 'em and played 'em back, but they were severely-corrupted and didn't pass the synths' checksums. Incredible, and worthy of myth-but-true status, methinks.
Robert Randolph wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
I actually switched away from DP at V6 :vomit: (came back at v8).
... and who in his right mind would blame you, Robert?

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Robert Randolph wrote:
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:DP 6 barely worked when it was released. Lol
I actually switched away from DP at V6 :vomit: (came back at v8).
Me too, and it sucks because I missed a very good version in DP7. Between DP6, which I DID actually get a stable live performance rig out of at the very least, and the BPM fiasco, I swore off purchases from MOTU for a long time. I only upgraded to 8 because a friend I collaborated with asked me to so we could be on the same version. Actually, I'm pretty sure he paid for my upgrade just to save headaches but the new version won me back and I went to 9 almost as soon as it came out.
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Glad to know you're back. I think when people work in DP, and I mean really work, with lots of things that need doing, for long periods, they begin to see the light. It's taking them less time, their results are more clear to hear, the pathways from start to finish are more apparent; I mean, it just makes sense. I'll be doing things one way and thinking "this is taking a long time," and suddenly I see or remember another way, and... bam! It's done.

When I started doing this in the mid-1980s, it was always just a means to an end. I never saw myself doing it as a career, or even for money, other than enhancing my income as a performer. I guess I was just good at it, and Performer and I hit it off. People asked me to work for them, and I never even had to look for a job. Having a family to raise, that was convenient. But when I'd meet people doing what I did, but on other platforms, I saw wasted effort, unnecessary windows, inefficient actions, menus, etc. which slowed them down. I shuddered at the thought of doing what I did, on their platform. The people designing the MOTU interface and operations were musicians; I could tell that much. They knew how we work.

I used to keep up with Pro Tools and Logic, but it's been years and years. People tell me that they are much more powerful and a lot less complicated (Logic) than they used to be, and that's good, but I don't really care anymore. If MOTU ever goes away, I'll probably just stop doing this, but I doubt that I have to worry about that. DP seems to be in line to be a favorite among truly hard working musicians for a long, long time.

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DP7 was just OK for me dog, but DP8 under OS 10.8 has been great... so good, MOTU hasn't been able to lure me to 9. Sure, I've updated the computers other than my studio Mac to OS 10.11, but I'm holding out for the promised VI efficiency improvements before I consider updating my studio software.
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