Adjust Beats - need a detailed explanation

[foorere]

On page 705 in the Manual, the explanation is not sufficient about all details of the Adjust Beat tool.


Except the first two options, when shall other be used and for what effect to be achieved?

An additional question: can we have 1/32 note adjusted (I see max is 1/16)?

[Shooshie]

I suggest learning things like this in the same way that I did: experimentation. Create a file for nothing but experimentation. It can be as simple as performing a piece of music, then using the Adjust Beats features on it. Try all the settings and see what they do and how they work. That's much easier than my telling you what each one of them does.

Also, you know my video. It explains most of them. In case you need to watch it again, it's at:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75122252/Movie ... tBeats.mov

Shooshie

[bayswater]

On page 705 in the Manual, the explanation is not sufficient about all details of the Adjust Beat tool.


Except the first two options, when shall other be used and for what effect to be achieved?

An additional question: can we have 1/32 note adjusted (I see max is 1/16)?

It's not easy to master the technique, but it is easier if you understand the related beat and tempo related functions in DP. MOTU has published a few items to help. Here's a couple but you can find more with Google.

http://www.motu.com/techsupport/technot ... just-beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocp4ftAeQjg

This video is the first of 5 on the more general topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmbwZpq ... vf&index=8

This is the fifth of the 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXMpWddPwg

[Shooshie]

It's not easy to master the technique, but it is easier if you understand the related beat and tempo related functions in DP. MOTU has published a few items to help. Here's a couple but you can find more with Google.

http://www.motu.com/techsupport/technot ... just-beats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocp4ftAeQjg

This video is the first of 5 on the more general topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmbwZpq ... vf&index=8

This is the fifth of the 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXMpWddPwg

These are excellent references/tutorials! These are good to watch now and then just to be sure you're up on all this stuff. I even learned something while watching them, and I know most of that stuff pretty well. DP is an amazing set of tools.

Shooshie

[foorere]

Thank you.

An additional question: can we have 1/32 note adjusted (I see max is 1/16)?

[bayswater]

I doubt you can go further than a 1/16 note for adjustments. I doubt the authors anticipated timing that is so off that it need to be adjusted within the span of a 1/16 note.

That said, whether DP interprets beats to be related to 1/16 notes or 1/32 notes depends on what tempo DP assigns to your soundbites. On page 634 of the manual, you can see how to double or halve the value it assigns. If you change that setting, then what used to be a 1/16 note will become a 1/8 note or a 1/32 note depending on what direction you change it.

[foorere]

That is complete true. I will explore this approach. Thank you.

[Babz]

Here is a tutorial I wrote for EM some years ago. I think it's still basically the same for today's DP.

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/maki ... path/34416

Best,
Babz

[bayswater]

Here is a tutorial I wrote for EM some years ago. I think it's still basically the same for today's DP.

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/maki ... path/34416

Best,
Babz

Excellent. The part about beat snappers is very useful. That threw me when I first used Adjust Beats.

[foorere]

Here is a tutorial I wrote for EM some years ago. I think it's still basically the same for today's DP.

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/maki ... path/34416

Best,
Babz

2005?!?
Excellent, truly excellent!

Another question, if I have just 8-note and 16-note, and max 16-dot-note, how can I snap to a tuplet, for instance triplet (3 subdivisions) or quintuplet (5 subdivisions)?
Any good approach?

[Shooshie]

Here is a tutorial I wrote for EM some years ago. I think it's still basically the same for today's DP.

http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/maki ... path/34416

Best,
Babz

2005?!?
Excellent, truly excellent!

Another question, if I have just 8-note and 16-note, and max 16-dot-note, how can I snap to a tuplet, for instance triplet (3 subdivisions) or quintuplet (5 subdivisions)?
Any good approach?

You're only snapping to downbeats. The rest of the figure doesn't really matter much, except that you've got to place the beats correctly before it and after it. There's an easy way to do that:

Use the Sequence Editor. Keep the Conductor Track at the top, and the track you're snapping to under it. Set the Conductor Track for TEMPOS. Watch the tempos as you snap beats in the track below it and as you move other beats around. When you're moving beats where there is no exact note to snap it to, watch the tempo markings and keep moving the beat around until the tempos are level with each other. Hold down the COMMAND key to release snapping while you move beats that have no note to snap to.

All this is in the video I linked you to.

Shooshie

[foorere]

You're only snapping to downbeats. The rest of the figure doesn't really matter much, except that you've got to place the beats correctly before it and after it.

Yes, that is clear. I have a very detailed improvisation of a folklore-type ornamentation which include numerous tuplets and so on. I need to define them as well.
OR I should just adjust beats and than in the MIDI editor move these notes to be displayed correctly. I get sometimes a quintuplet sometimes no.

[millahjovich]

I suggest learning things like this in the same way that I did: experimentation. Create a file for nothing but experimentation. It can be as simple as performing a piece of music, then using the Adjust Beats features on it. Try all the settings and see what they do and how they work. That's much easier than my telling you what each one of them does.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

That's a great suggestion. Experimentation is also sometimes called "experience." I don't know of another way to actually learn. That applies to so much in life, especially in the arts.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

ps - welcome to the 'nation. Mind the trolls! lol