Kontact volume resetting when I hit PLAY.

MikeInBoston · Post by **MikeInBoston** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:55 am

This is driving me CRAZY!!! You know how some libraries are not as loud as others. Well, if I boost the master volume of the instance of Kontact that I'm using (say, to +6dB), when I hit play in DP9, the volume slider in Kontact snaps back to its default value.

Does anyone know how to prevent this? By the way, this happens if I start an empty DP project, so it's not like I have a bunch of hidden controllers lurking on that track.

Thank you.

Mike

buzzsmith · Post by **buzzsmith** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:12 am

Mike, if I'm understanding you correctly...

Presuming just one instrument loaded, you have 2 ways to control the volume.

The return fader for Kontakt and the fader for the instrument.

In my experience, the instrument's volume will jump to the current fader value.

The Kontakt VI fader should not move unless there is some automation written there.

Hope that helps.

Buzzy

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MikeInBoston · Post by **MikeInBoston** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:24 am

Actually, I was wrong about something. Its not the master volume of Kontact, but its the volume of the loaded library within it. This is what snaps back to it's default value.

Mike

buzzsmith · Post by **buzzsmith** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:37 am

Which library?

If each instrument is assigned to an individual MIDI channel on the mixer you should see a fader for that instrument as well as the others if you have the mixer set to show them.

Moving a fader should also move the volume slider for that instrument within Kontakt. Controller #7.

It's possible that your loaded library's instruments volume may be also controlled with the mod wheel. Controller #1.

Or a combination of the two.

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stubbsonic · Post by **stubbsonic** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:27 am

I think the basic deal is that you have to choose whether you are using Kontakts instrument sliders, or DP's MIDI track sliders to control volume.

If have multiple instruments loaded into Kontakt, and you want to use the sliders within Kontakt to adjust the relative volumes:

Open each instruments editor and click on the INSTRUMENT OPTIONS button (upper left), uncheck "Accept Standard Controllers for Pan & Volume".

With this option, then you won't be able to use the DP track/mixer sliders to adjust volume. Instead, you set volumes for each instrument, and/or use the output mixer within Kontakt (as mentioned by MLC below), but I don't know if you can automate that mixer.

If you want to use DP's MIDI track's sliders to control volume, Leave that above option checked. Now you can use the DP MIDI track mixer fader to control each Kontakt MIDI channel's volume.
NOTE: within that same edit window (Inst. Opt.) you can set the range of the slider so that full on is -12, -6, 0, +6 or +12.

The only hitch with this approach is that if you have multiple tracks/faders assigned to the same channel/instrument, then it can get kind of messy.

I believe when there is no automation, DP/Kontakt will default to listening to which ever fader is highest, but I don't know how it works as far as conflicting automation is concerned or unusual combinations of realtime adjustments and automation. I think as long as you are aware, that's not a big issue.

MikeInBoston · Post by **MikeInBoston** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:28 am

Wow, Buzzy, you're right! When I move the MIDI fader in DP, the volume of the library slider (in this case, NI's Ensemble Strings) moves accordingly. I never noticed the hard wiring between the two before. How would I defeat this? Is there a way? If the MIDI fader in DP is already up to 127 (which it is by default), how can I raise the slider of the library without it snapping back to get a louder sound?

Thanks so much.

Mike

stubbsonic · Post by **stubbsonic** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:45 am

See above-- edited for clarity.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:50 am

Yes, check the mixer in Kontakt player.

Kellog · Post by **Kellog** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:30 am

Thanks for this post and your replies Buzzsmith and stubbsonic. I was a wondering why full volume on my controller fader was only yielding 1/2 way on the Kontakt instruments volume level. Yay +6 in the instrument editor! Much appreciated!

MikeInBoston · Post by **MikeInBoston** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:17 pm

That's it!!! That's exactly what I wanted to do! Thank you, stubbsonic, MIDI Life Crisis, and Buzzy. When using Cubase or Ableton Live (and Logic, I think), this doesn't seem to be an issue for me. Now I can set the volume of the library within Kontact itself, and not worry that DP is going to change it when I hit play.

You guys are great!

Mike

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