Bass. What VI do you like for bass?

[Henry Robinett]

I would have out this under the VI sub forum but all the categories are MOTU instruments. So is there a particular app you like for bass sounds? I'm not that interested in super electro stuff. Just curious. I have Falcon, Kontakt, KORG DL, and other stuff.


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[billf]

It depends. For a deep VI, Spectrasonics Trilian is excellent. Komplete 10 from NI also has some nice bass VI stuff for Kontakt.

[musicman691]

For use in Kontakt I like the Rickenbacker bass. It's an add-on library. The gui even has a representation of Lemmy's hat on a chair in the background. To my mind a lot better than the stock Scarbee basses in Kontakt/Komplete.

[buzzsmith]

I have Trillian and really like. However, I'm also looking for some other bass options.


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[musicman691]

For those using Trillian how do you like the upright bass? I have some stuff that could use a good upright bass; that's one instrument I was never able to play with any aplomb. Electric bass no problem.

For synth type bass it's either the Arturia MiniMoog or Moog Modular in vi land.

[Armageddon]

I originally used the Scarbee DI Bass libraries NI put out for Kontakt, but they all sound kind of tubby to me, have extremely limited articulations (two fingers only for the P-Bass and two fingers/slap in different patches for J-Bass) and were always hard to seat properly in a mix -- I also record the Di bass, then amp up that track, record the amped version and mix the two tracks together. I wound up switching to Ilya Efimov DI bass libraries, particularly the Classic (a P-Bass) and the Fretless. You can keyswitch to a slap or mute articulation, plus slide FX noises and auto-legato, and opt to use their built-in amp sim if you don't have (or don't feel like using) your own preferred plug or real-life bass amp. Most importantly, they sound like real DI basses. I also use Prominy's Yamaha SR-5 Rock Bass for Kontakt when I want a more modern picked bass sound.

[mikehalloran]

It doesn't matter much to me which bass VI I use. It depends on the track and the kick drum I use. I'm going to eq both so that they stay out of the way of each other anyway. I'll start with the basic sound I want to use and go from there.

I'll often play it in using one of the basses in GarageBand on my iPad and tapping the glass or using a keyboard (they can be sequenced, too). The Precision and Höfner are surprisingly good. The Picked is good for a Rick type piano-bass and the synth basses are surprisingly useful. The upright sucks on its own but I use it live with a rockabilly singer and it works pretty well. Hmmm... It never occurred to me before that the GB basses in iOS might be my favorites.

If it's a simple line, I'll grab one of my Carvin or Rick Turner basses—I've developed a one-handed technique.

I've never heard the upright bass VI that I like. The mics are always too close and never sound like a player in a live acoustic ensemble. The phase anomalies in a multi-mic'd bass VI sound unnatural. I detest hearing much of the fingerboard up close. No thanks.

I've cobbled one from samples of my studio work using MachFive3. I have my 5-string Kay somewhat complete and am working on one from my carved bass. I suppose I like them because it's the only way I can sound like me now that I can no longer play.

My favorite way to record an upright is to use a nice ribbon about ten feet away in a good sounding room. Sometimes I'll use M-S with a pair of ribbons.

[musicman691]

Speaking of bass vi's has any developer done one for the Rhodes Piano bass like Ray Manzarek of the Doors used? Preferably for Kontakt.

[bayswater]

I'll second Mike's comment on GarageBand basses. I get compositions done in GB from a composer who wants the tracks redone with live or better sounds. For general purposes I can often leave the bass the way he sends it. Layering 2 or 3 GB sounds can give a decent result.

[Rusty Shackleford]

For those using Trillian how do you like the upright bass?

It's good in certain settings - lacks clarity and definition IMO. For jazz and other acoustic-type music I like 'StraightAhead! Bass' better. You can control the mic and direct levels and blend. http://straightaheadsamples.com/shop-2/ ... head-bass/

[musicman691]

For those using Trillian how do you like the upright bass?

It's good in certain settings - lacks clarity and definition IMO. For jazz and other acoustic-type music I like 'StraightAhead! Bass' better. You can control the mic and direct levels and blend. http://straightaheadsamples.com/shop-2/ ... head-bass/

Thank you for the link. This sounds like it can do what I need wihtout all the extra stuff in Trillian I don't need. That and it's Kontakt which is a major plus.

[guitardood]

When not recording live bass, I've been using Machfive/Falcon with either AcousticSamples Bassysm-F and the Machfive stock J-Bass through a UAD-2 Ampeg SVTR. They both sound pretty great to my ears.

[HCMarkus]

I use the Scarabee basses (NI Komplete), the MOTU Minimoog model and Omnisphere. Also love a few of the hybrid bass sounds on my S90ES.

[David Polich]

Check out Amplesound's basses. They offer a P-bass, a Jazz Bass, a Musicman Stingray bass, and
a handheld (not standup) acoustic bass. They also offer what I consider to be the best sampled acoustic guitars in the world.

http://www.amplesound.net

Someone mentioned a Rhodes piano bass. Any Rhodes VI will work for that, the original Piano Bass
was really no different from a "regular" Rhodes Stage 73...it just happened to come to market before the Rhodes Suitcase and Stage models did. To make a "Piano Bass" from a Rhodes VI, simply add a lot of low end EQ.

[musicman691]

Someone mentioned a Rhodes piano bass. Any Rhodes VI will work for that, the original Piano Bass was really no different from a "regular" Rhodes Stage 73...it just happened to come to market before the Rhodes Suitcase and Stage models did. To make a "Piano Bass" from a Rhodes VI, simply add a lot of low end EQ.

I've tried that very thing in the past with less than satisfying results. Too tubby and not the sound I remember from all those years ago - keep in mind I played the real thing back in the 60's so yeah - been there/done that. Then again I've yet to find a Rhodes vi that I like either; I'm picky that way.