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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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rickorick wrote:How does one do a clean install? I thought one had to at least have 10.6.8 to get into the APP
store so one could upgrade from there.
It's very easy. There are many ways to do this.

If you are on OS 10.6.8, update the OS from the App Store. Now shut down, Option-Boot into the Repair disk. Use Disk Utility to reinitialize your drive and reinstall the current OS. Only versions of the OS that you have downloaded before will show up in the App Store plus the current (10.11.3) Now you can restore your apps and files one at a time from backup. Plan a few days of doing nothing else.

If you are on 10.7.3 or later, Option-Boot into the Repair Disk and go from there.

If you created your current boot drive from a Clone, there will be no repair disk. In that case do the same as the instructions for 10.6.8 above.

Note: this is for a clean install—why anyone does this unless necessary is beyound me. If you just want to update, do it from the App Store.

Have a good backup, preferably Time Machine before you do any of this.

IF YOU ARE ON OS 10.9.4, UPDATE TO 10.9.5 FIRST! Google the 10.9.5 Combo Installer as there is a major backup/restore bug in 10.9.4. My last clean install was due to this bug—I hadn't done one since I upgraded from my Mac+ to a Performa 6200 in 199? I had to move my files manually from a Time Machine backup and my apps from installers. It took me a week.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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My music computer is a MacPro3,1. I was running 10.8.5, and DP9 was working quite well.

I wanted to go up to 10.10.5 (which is working fantastic on my editing MacPro3,1) to run a new USB3 PCI card, but the Yosemite installer wouldn't let me; told me the installer was damaged and to download it again. I logged into Apple Store to get it, but the Downloaded (not Download) button was grayed out.

So, I let the computer upgrade itself to El Capitan.

Big mistake.

DP9 immediately started giving me beach balls every few seconds for 8-10 seconds each time. So, I used my clone disk (I clone before every major upgrade.) to revert back to 10.8.5. To my surprise, the new USB3 PCI card works on that version.

I'm not asking for help. I just wanted to report my miserable fifteen minute experience with El Capitan.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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Thanks Mike I knew you had the answer. I'm putting in 2 new hard drives in 2 2009 MacBooks
for friend so since he had a copy of 10.6.8 I'm using that. Western Digital 750 gig @7200 rpm
clean install. These will be live computers running DP that he got used for $100 apiece(such a deal)and when something better shows up I'll just take the drives out of these and drop them in.
Yay!
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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rickorick wrote:Thanks Mike I knew you had the answer. I'm putting in 2 new hard drives in 2 2009 MacBooks
for friend so since he had a copy of 10.6.8 I'm using that. Western Digital 750 gig @7200 rpm
clean install. These will be live computers running DP that he got used for $100 apiece(such a deal)and when something better shows up I'll just take the drives out of these and drop them in.
Yay!
Tell your friend that, to protect this investment, those batteries need to be replaced ASAP. When they go bad, they swell up and can break the motherboard, keyboard and screen in the process. This can be gradual but I've seen it happen over an hour. Once a MB is 5 years old, you are living on borrowed time. 4-5 years is not too soon. I sent four 2008-2010 Macs to recycling in the last year due to this.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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mikehalloran wrote:[...] Once a MB is 5 years old, you are living on borrowed time. 4-5 years is not too soon. I sent four 2008-2010 Macs to recycling in the last year due to this.
Thanks for that advise, Mike. My previous 2010 music MacBookPro is now my home general use computer. I will do the battery replace.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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Jim wrote:My music computer is a MacPro3,1. I was running 10.8.5, and DP9 was working quite well.

I wanted to go up to 10.10.5 (which is working fantastic on my editing MacPro3,1) to run a new USB3 PCI card, but the Yosemite installer wouldn't let me; told me the installer was damaged and to download it again. I logged into Apple Store to get it, but the Downloaded (not Download) button was grayed out.

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I think a broken certificate may be the cause of this. Here is an explanation and a work-around:
http://www.macissues.com/2016/03/04/cer ... nstallers/
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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kassonica wrote:This is very encouraging :)

I'm coming from DP7, so there will be much goodness to discover :dance:
It works fine except for two issues on my system. The latest drivers only allow you to set your buffers to 512, no higher. Secondly, when mixing using many plugins, DP 9.02 spikes heavily when using the Orion. When I switch to using the Motu's 24 A/o, the spikes decrease.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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Wow I have 4 MBP's from 2006 to 2011 I guess I should replace all the batteries! I'll call now.
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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The battery idea was great until I called and found out I can't buy an Apple battery and put it in myself. The local shop wants to charge me $250. Yikes! So where would be a good place to get these things?
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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I found them, much cheaper, $55 $49 &$79
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Re: upgrading to 9 and el capitan

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cuttime wrote:
Jim wrote:My music computer is a MacPro3,1. I was running 10.8.5, and DP9 was working quite well.

I wanted to go up to 10.10.5 (which is working fantastic on my editing MacPro3,1) to run a new USB3 PCI card, but the Yosemite installer wouldn't let me; told me the installer was damaged and to download it again. I logged into Apple Store to get it, but the Downloaded (not Download) button was grayed out.

.
I think a broken certificate may be the cause of this. Here is an explanation and a work-around:
http://www.macissues.com/2016/03/04/cer ... nstallers/
Thanks for the tip, cuttime. I was able to download the installer from another computer, and copy it over to my DAW Mac, and upgrade to Yosemite without further issues. I opened a few projects, and DP9 seems to be running very well on 10.10.5 without the beach balls I was getting on El Capitan.
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